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    Spanish Cross next of kin

    Here is a Spanish Cross NOK that has just been listed for sale. IMO it's a fake. That's the second such cross in a few months to be offered as originals on well known dealers sites. A worrying trend.

    I would like your opinion.


    Regards,
    AB.
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    Last edited by andrewb; 06-23-2013, 09:33 AM. Reason: spelling
    In memory of my Uncle,
    Schtz.Grenadier KARL HOFBAUER,
    2 Kompanie, Inf-Bat, 550.
    Killed in action, Krasnoje, Minsk, 7. Nov. 1942.

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    In memory of my Uncle,
    Schtz.Grenadier KARL HOFBAUER,
    2 Kompanie, Inf-Bat, 550.
    Killed in action, Krasnoje, Minsk, 7. Nov. 1942.

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      #3
      I can't find it to be a match to the accepted originals that have been posted on this Forum before.
      And it seems kind of rough in appereance also.

      /Flemming

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        #4
        Originally posted by Flemming View Post
        I can't find it to be a match to the accepted originals that have been posted on this Forum before.
        And it seems kind of rough in appereance also.

        /Flemming

        Agree

        Andy

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          #5
          This cross is selling for $3925. Below is the thread to the other cross which is still for sale at $4750.


          http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...nish+cross+kin


          I have bought many good items from both these dealers in the past and will again however if ever there was a good example of buyer beware and do your homework, this is it.

          Regards,
          AB.
          In memory of my Uncle,
          Schtz.Grenadier KARL HOFBAUER,
          2 Kompanie, Inf-Bat, 550.
          Killed in action, Krasnoje, Minsk, 7. Nov. 1942.

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            #6
            That is a style I wouldn't touch- these are often listed as original as Detlev showed one in his price guide but the quality is way lacking from the textbook accepted type.

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              #7
              Here is my piece with solid swas. As you will see, the stippled areas of the cross should be much smoother.


              Stan
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                #8
                I don't like it as well. IMO it is a crude fake.

                regards
                jacques

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                  #9
                  AB,
                  I don't know if this represents a trend as far as a new faker cranking these out right now. I think this type of fake has been around for a while and over the years I have seen it in more than one "high end" collection. I think what we may be seeing in stead is that with bad economies some folks are reaching into their collections and trading or selling their more expensive but less "glamorous" , for lack of a better term, pieces. But even in some of the the best collections there may be some dogs and these crosses certainly bark.
                  JAndrew

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Stan View Post
                    Here is my piece with solid swas. As you will see, the stippled areas of the cross should be much smoother.


                    Stan
                    Your's I really do like

                    I like the Spanish Cross, but especially the "Next of Kin".

                    /Flemming

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Stan View Post
                      Here is my piece with solid swas. As you will see, the stippled areas of the cross should be much smoother.


                      Stan
                      A perfect example Stan

                      Regards,
                      AB.
                      In memory of my Uncle,
                      Schtz.Grenadier KARL HOFBAUER,
                      2 Kompanie, Inf-Bat, 550.
                      Killed in action, Krasnoje, Minsk, 7. Nov. 1942.

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                        #12
                        Stan that's a really nice example. The other looks like rubbish compared to it.

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by JAndrew View Post
                          AB,
                          I don't know if this represents a trend as far as a new faker cranking these out right now. I think this type of fake has been around for a while and over the years I have seen it in more than one "high end" collection. I think what we may be seeing in stead is that with bad economies some folks are reaching into their collections and trading or selling their more expensive but less "glamorous" , for lack of a better term, pieces. But even in some of the the best collections there may be some dogs and these crosses certainly bark.
                          JAndrew

                          Thanks JAndrew for your spin on this but its not the high end seller that concerns me so much but the high end dealers who buy these items and then sell them for a profit. I have no problem in that per say..... except that these items are fake!

                          Regards,
                          AB.
                          In memory of my Uncle,
                          Schtz.Grenadier KARL HOFBAUER,
                          2 Kompanie, Inf-Bat, 550.
                          Killed in action, Krasnoje, Minsk, 7. Nov. 1942.

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                            #14
                            IMO not an original cross. Too sloppy made. Nothing to give to someone who lost her husband or child.

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