Iron Cross Schinkel...

[Javier D. Garcia]

I was at a show this weekend and I saw three different ek2kl schinkel form with different features.
Do you know how many variations of schinkel form exist? Any known GOOD repro around? For me all of them look original.

Cheers,

Javier.

[George Stimson]

variations

The only variation that I know of is that some Schinkels have "balls"on the bottoms of the "9s" and "3s" and some don't.

George

[Doug See]

As far as I know, there are at least two variations or makers of the Schinkelforms, with slightly different frames. I haven't seen a third type, but it may exist. A first class schinkel, made by the same maker as one of the 2nd's also exists in both pinback and screwback forms. I'm not home to post the two different EK2's and the EK1 schinkels in my collection, but if you are interested in a scan, PM me and I'll send you a .jpg of the 3 early next week.

[Mark S.]

Here is my Shinkelform EK 1

obv.

[Mark S.]

rev.

[Mark S.]

Shinkelform EK 2

obv.

[Mark S.]

rev.

[George Stimson]

More....









George

[Javier D. Garcia]

Thanks everybody for posting pics.
I was on vacation and was unnable to reply and thank you before

Javier.

[Frank Heukemes]

Dear Javier,

You asked about fakes of the EK 1 Schinkel-Form. Here are two examples of the same kind of fake currently in online auctions.

Compare with Mark´s real one - vaguely similar, but no cigar.

Both are sold as originals - of course

Cheers, Frank

[Frank Heukemes]

reverse

[Frank Heukemes]

second FAKE example

[Frank Heukemes]

second FAKE example, reverse

[Javier D. Garcia]

Thanks for the pics Frank!

I´ve seen one 1st and two 2nd class crosses. When I compared the two ek2kl I noticed they have sligh diferences so I´m now interested in known if they´re well faked or there are several makers with different dies that made this crosses.

Cheers,

Javier.

[Mike Dunn]

Imperial collector here--could someone tell me whay makes these a schinkel EK?? What is different?? Thanks, Mike