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    EK1 on Estand

    I am wanting to buy this cross and from what i have learned so far I want to verify this cross is a pre 45 example, the pin set up looks early? Thanks
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    anyone??

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      #3
      I don't like the pin setup at all....the front isn't impressing me either.

      Better photos might help to really firm up whether this cross is good or bad.

      Hank
      Unless it was nighttime, or the weather was bad, and you were running out of gas - then it was a sweaty nightmare, like a monkey f*ing a skunk.
      ~ Dan Hampton, Viper Pilot

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        #4
        I agree with Hank; it's not a type I recognize personally.
        Best regards,
        Streptile

        Looking for ROUND BUTTON 1939 EK1 Spange cases (LDO or PKZ)

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          #5
          Wow, this whole Iron Cross field is eye opening. Based on the site EK-dna I thought I had this one down as a early type based on the pin, it looked like early Deumer.

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            #6
            Originally posted by Bcarver View Post
            Based on the site EK-dna I thought I had this one down as a early type based on the pin, it looked like early Deumer.
            I don't get a good feeling about this one either and it definitely is not an early Deumer.

            Here is an original, early Deumer for reference:

            Best regards,
            Tom
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            Last edited by Tom Yanacek; 03-31-2013, 09:57 PM.
            Mihi libertas necessest!

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              #7
              side-by-side comparison (front)
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              Mihi libertas necessest!

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                #8
                comparison reverse:
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                Mihi libertas necessest!

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                  #9
                  Is there a hole in the backplate, near the hinge?
                  You can see it with the pin open

                  http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...Henlein&page=2

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                    #10
                    The rust on the obverse looks recent...

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                      #11
                      If it is not a known fake then we should look at the possibility that it could be an unknown example from the period. It looks believable in construction and materials even if it does have rust that looks fresh. Even orginal items can have fresh rust...

                      Rich
                      Interested in hand-stitched EM/NCO LW insignia and cuff-titles
                      Decorations of Germany

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                        #12
                        Could be a 109 if you compare it to the crosses in the link i
                        posted. ...

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                          #13
                          I just noticed this thread. Thank you for all your opinions. Do your homeworks guys

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by ben bijker View Post
                            Could be a 109 if you compare it to the crosses in the link i
                            posted. ...
                            I'm with Ben on this one, though I am by no means on his level of expertise when it comes to EKs. To me, the core does match those posted in the thread he linked and the differences can simply be due to the angle of the photo. I do note that the hinge on this one appears to be a bit lower than the ones in the thread, but I suppose that could be due to the way the worker who emplaced the hardware did so. Better phtos of the hardware from different angles would be a big help.

                            For the potential buyer, all I can say is that it should be obvious now that these crosses are controversial, so I wouldn't lay out a lot of money for one. On the other hand, you could pay low now and reap the benefits later when/if these are firmly established to be original pre-1945. It's your decision to gamble or not, but I am personally convinced and so bought one each of the pinbacks and the screwbacks.
                            Dale

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                              #15
                              Exactly my point Dale.
                              One should decide for himself, I have a nice SB as well, and if a nice pb comes along at a good price I will buy it.

                              On Germanwarbooty there is one for sale at $595.

                              When you have the cross in hand it looks very good, and there are the wartime ek2 from this maker to compare to.
                              That;s the main reason I believe these crosses to be authentic

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