Cloth DKG Africa & Panzer, and EK2nd spange L/12 opinions

[Luftstalag1]

Just picked these up and wanted some opinions on them. To me, and I am no expert, they look good and smell good. Have no glow under black light. But the cloth version of the DK is one of the few German items I did not have a lot of experience with in my collecting days.

DKG Africa backed, JFS marked?





DKG Panzer backed, JFS marked?





EK 2nd class spange L/12 marked?





Thanks,
Mark

[tinmantis]

that spange is a known fake
regards
jon

[Bob Hritz]

I would walk away from the German Crosses.

Bob Hritz

[Luftstalag1]

Thanks guys!

[London Jay]

I agree with Bob mate.

Jay.

[smitty]

spange and crosses

I agree with the others. Spange is fake, as well as the DKIG's in cloth. All bad. smitty

[RKC]

Pttth!

Both 'German Crosses' are duds!

The white background for the swastika area is not the correct material. The "ribbing" in the material is not right. Another give-away here is the 'mounting' of the swastika which isn't set the correct way on the white 'ribbed' background.

The swastika is not embroidered properly! The black threading is not embroidered in the right fashion as found on all original cloth 'DK's.

The 'date' on the wreath [on both of those crosses] is void of the "flaw" in the number '9', which in most cases are 'flawed' when you see them. Also, your 'finishes' are way too similar on both Crosses which should have thrown up 'Flags' for you in the first place.

Thumbs down on these.

Ron

[Luftstalag1]

Moved them to the Fake Gallery.

Thanks