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    KVK maker?

    KVKs are not my thing. Can anyone name a maker to this very nice looking example just sold by eMedals?

    Thanks in advance for your help.
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    Best regards,
    Streptile

    Looking for ROUND BUTTON 1939 EK1 Spange cases (LDO or PKZ)

    #2
    Sometimes I don't know why I bother...
    Best regards,
    Streptile

    Looking for ROUND BUTTON 1939 EK1 Spange cases (LDO or PKZ)

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      #3
      As nice as the KVKs are, I don't think they're well defined because:

      1. They don't have the defining attributes that most EK's have.
      2. Nobody's put in the hard time as they have on the EKs, to differentiate between the subtle differences such as maybe the sword handles, or the fine details in pebbling between manufacturers.

      Throw in the fact this is a screwback with no pin to evaluate, and it's that much tougher.

      Doesn't help, but better than no answer?

      best
      Hank
      Unless it was nighttime, or the weather was bad, and you were running out of gas - then it was a sweaty nightmare, like a monkey f*ing a skunk.
      ~ Dan Hampton, Viper Pilot

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        #4
        Its a shame these aren't further researched as the details on this one are very crisp. I'll bet it wasn't cheap.

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          #5
          I know very little about KVKs, but this one looks like a nice, earlier piece made of tombak - were it a zinc KVK, most of that beautiful silver finish would probably be gone.

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            #6
            All I can say is that we're working on it.
            George

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              #7
              Originally posted by Hank C. View Post
              Doesn't help, but better than no answer?
              You're right Hank, how nice to come back and read replies

              I didn't buy this piece (I think the disc was a fake replacement) but I sure liked it. I've often thought about having one single representative example of the KVK in my collection (I have none) and I really liked this one.

              George, get the book out.
              Best regards,
              Streptile

              Looking for ROUND BUTTON 1939 EK1 Spange cases (LDO or PKZ)

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                #8
                Originally posted by streptile View Post
                ..... I've often thought about having one single representative example of the KVK in my collection (I have none).....
                Same here. Only EKs and ribbon bars with EK ribbons interest me, however I would love to have a stunningly perfect early tombak pinback KVK1 with loads of frosting and mirror-bright highlights, but I've yet to find one that I really like, except cased examples, which I don't want. I think they're much harder to find than perfect EK1s.

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                  #9
                  Trevor,

                  Looking through Gordon Williamson's War Merit Cross book there are two KVKI's that have similar sword handle butts as this nice KVKI you posted for comments. The first one is on page 124 (top of page), a Steinhauer & Luck. But, the area on the S&L where the hand guards meet the cross arms is not identical. There is a cross on page 134 (bottom of page), with clamshell disc, which looks very, very close to your cross. Unfortunately it is not a match to any other marked cross in the book, and it is unmarked. The area where the hand guards meet the cross arms is identical. So too are the handle butts the same. I'm still searching for an obverse match to your cross in the archives.

                  Robert
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                    #10
                    I have the two second classes and a poor copy of an RK with swords. I'd love to get a good 1st class with swords to fill the spot. These are very underrated because of the supposed stigma attached to them as being not as "good" or high as the EK. A very hansom medal actually. I didn't even know they came with the clam shell back.

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                      #11
                      Tony,

                      I hunted for a long time for just that 'right one'. I had cased mint Deschlers which were very nice, but had no 'character'. Then I found this '84'. It's burnished highlights are toned to a dark blue/purple. Very handsome inhand...

                      Robert
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                        #12
                        The only design what is very close to the first KVK1 design is S&L.
                        But it does not match perfect!

                        http://www.kvk1-dna.de/-4--steinhaue...---pinback.php

                        But I'm also work on that ;-)

                        Today I have receive 3 new KVK1 for my database ;-)

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Robert P. View Post
                          Tony,

                          I hunted for a long time for just that 'right one'. I had cased mint Deschlers which were very nice, but had no 'character'. Then I found this '84'. It's burnished highlights are toned to a dark blue/purple. Very handsome inhand...

                          Robert
                          That "84" is sweet!

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                            #14
                            Robert, that's the sort of thing I'm going for at some point, very nice indeed.

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                              #15
                              Thank you for the kind comments on the '84'.

                              There is another cross, which IMO is a repro, that is very similar to the cross Trevor posted. The swasi is different which makes me believe whole-heartedly that it is not the same cross. Have a look...

                              http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...hlight=18+KVKI

                              I don't know if the cross Trevor posted is an original. I hate saying this but as Stefan said, there's just no other cross that we can find (thus far) that resembles it as much as an S&L. Close, but not a complete match. Hmmm, could it be a repro? I don't know for sure...

                              Robert

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