EK1 & EK2 Unusual variants, good or bad?

[emilitaria_usmc]

I just received these in the mail yesterday. I'm not sure if they are good or bad. Take a look and let me know:

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Re the EK2:
I've never seen such a small brass ribbon loop before!
Is there any maker that did this?
The ribbon looks good under blacklight, the metal frame glows purple.

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EK2 44 mm, magnetic, small 10 mm tombac ring, 17.5 gm.
EK1 45 mm, magnetic, flat back, flat pin, 22.5 gm.

[emilitaria_usmc]

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I can't recall a pin like this before.

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The pin, catch, and back are flat as a pancake.
I can't open it without bending the catch to make room.
Is that how they were issued?
There is no silver finish on it at all.

[fabri-online]

I 'm sorry but that EKI is a known fake.
I have some hopes for the 2nd class though that is a replaced ring.

[StefanK.]

I agree with fabri, the 1st class is known as the floch-fake.

[John Henderson]

Hi, I know the look of that ek1 well! Unfortunately. Fake.
As fabri says the ek2 ring looks to have been replaced.

kind regards John

[Gew44]

I agree with others.

More close up photo of EKII are nedeed, please, to confirm if is a good one.... IMo it could be.

No chanches for EKI.... surely fake.

Ciao

[AndyC]

I agree with fabri, the 1st class is known as the floch-fake.

Agree
It is a Floch fake

Andy