EKII 1914 for review

[HuD]

Hello guys,
i recently got this 1914 EKII that looks quite interesting to my eyes.
There are no mm on the ring but it is quite heavy, massime and thicker in comparison with most of the other WWI eks.
With the lug for the suspention ring i thought it was a "S" maker piece but actually it looks quite different in comparison with another S marked cross.
Looking at this cross there is something that reminds me of a TR Deschler piece.
What do you guys think about it?
Many thanks,
Stefano

[HuD]

Sorry guys it as supposed to go on the Imperial part...
could anyone please move it to the right section?
Many thanks,
Stefano

[HuD]

here you have the pics...

[Hans Kondor]

Interesting piece Stefano, first I thought for "M", but no. I don't think its a Dechler either.

[HuD]

Thanks for your input Hans, actually kind of similar to a "M" but agree not enough.
Had a closer look at the EK data base and i find it very close to the PS800 one.

[streptile]

In my opinion "M" AKA B.H. Mayer.

[HuD]

Thanks Trevor, the last one looks pretty much the same.
Have a M marked cross in collection and took some comparison pics.
The marked cross has a slightly thinner frame and the weight is 18.4 grs.
The unmarked one is really thicker and it weights 20.00 grs.
Two different timelines of productions?
Best,
Stefano

[Gew44]

I would like to answer in Italian to explain better my thought.

[Gew44]

I tray to explain me in English

Is possible two different core made on same time during the cast process. I remember one pic where showed the "big pack" of valves ready to receive the melted iron.
This process was used, for the EKII 1914 cores until 1939 for sure, for low number productions, and the crosses made after WWII, IMO, they present no mm on ring or LDO number. Also for me your 2 crosses HuD are made from same factory, but you know the "brand" of EKII not is my first interest ( I like so much understanding who made what and which tooling used, PK & LDO communications and much more era doc's).

The pictures below is 1939 and is for EKII 1914 production.

[Gew44]

The photo, famous one, below referring to production inside German factory around 1914 - 1915.

After this years the core production made from sheet steel to meet the growing demand of crosses for the awarding increase.