EK 1 Screwback, without maker

[rove]

hello

i got here this ek1.
on the first view i see the missing maker and the the pin.
overall the cross shows a quality making.
some indices let me thing about a souval, but let me hear your ops.
txs for viewing

[rove]

3 & 4

here

[rove]

hello!
no ops are bad ops...

[Matthieu]

Not sure if this is even an original one ???

[ben bijker]

I agree, not original IMO


Core details are soft in some way, and the frame is odd (hard to describe why, sorry)

The missing anti-rotation pin is odd, since you see that almost exclusively on early war ek's with a big disc.

Missing mm isn't always a red flag, there are several unmarked sb's around
Wiedmann never marked their SB's at all....

It looks like the "51" fakes, but now with a more convincing disc....

[rove]

I agree, not original IMO
Core details are soft in some way, and the frame is odd (hard to describe why, sorry)
The missing anti-rotation pin is odd, since you see that almost exclusively on early war ek's with a big disc.
Missing mm isn't always a red flag, there are several unmarked sb's around
Wiedmann never marked their SB's at all....
It looks like the "51" fakes, but now with a more convincing disc....

thank you for your full explanation!

[ben bijker]

thank you for your full explanation!

You're welcome!