German Cross in Gold

[Patrick W]

Hi Guys,

Today I received my very first DKiG, its a lightweight Zimmerman (20). I promptly went through every dealer's site I know comparing other light version samples.

What I noticed was that the 20 and 134 (Klein) lightweight crosses appear to absolutely identical- I couldn't see a difference at all apart from the maker mark. Was this different makers sharing the same parts?
If this has been discussed before then I'm afraid I missed it but the rivits and recessed hinge and catch appear to be identical between both makers.
Any comments or information would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
Patrick

[tom hansen]

One distinctive feature is the Klein rivets are thinner and more fine than the zimmermans, which are "fatter" and raised.

[Ardennes]

is that true on all Kleins or just most ?

[IVAN]

Hi Guys,

Today I received my very first DKiG, its a lightweight Zimmerman (20). I promptly went through every dealer's site I know comparing other light version samples.

What I noticed was that the 20 and 134 (Klein) lightweight crosses appear to absolutely identical- I couldn't see a difference at all apart from the maker mark. Was this different makers sharing the same parts?
If this has been discussed before then I'm afraid I missed it but the rivits and recessed hinge and catch appear to be identical between both makers.
Any comments or information would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
Patrick

you are right, Patrick ! and not many collectors note this.

In fact are nearly identicals, only rivets, as said Tom, change.

[Yuri D.]

The wreath stampings are identical, just look at the date. But the wreath fnish is different. More matte on the "20"s and more firegilted on the "134"s.

Thoughts?

Yuri

[all1knew]

photos

Hello all,

Can any of you post photos of the big differences in the two makers?

Bill

[IVAN]

The wreath stampings are identical, just look at the date. But the wreath fnish is different. More matte on the "20"s and more firegilted on the "134"s.

Thoughts?

Yuri

Yes, I agree...and not only wreath finish but reverse patina type too, in fact after 60 years we can see different chimical reactions, each of them typical.

[Volkbert]

I thought Klein and Zimmerman DKiG also differ at the date area or is that not valid for the light versions?