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    #2641
    RK preliminary award document to Oberst Hans-Levin von Barby
    Kommandeur Schützen-Regiment 361 / 90.Panzer-Grenadier-Division
    Presented on: December 13th, 1941

    Barby was awarded the KC for his actions at Tobruk.
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      #2642
      RK preliminary award document to Generalleutnant Paul Danhauser
      Kommandeur, Infanterie-Regiment 427, 129. Infanterie-Division
      Presented on: February 10th, 1942

      It's a copy from the original document.
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        #2643
        RK preliminary award document to Generalmajor Erich Bärenfänger
        Führer III. / Infanterie-Regiment 123 / 50.Infanterie-Division
        Presented on: August 7th, 1942

        (Photo credits to Ratisbon's)
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          #2644
          Originally posted by Sepp45 View Post
          RK preliminary award document to Generalmajor Erich Bärenfänger
          Führer III. / Infanterie-Regiment 123 / 50.Infanterie-Division
          Presented on: August 7th, 1942

          (Photo credits to Ratisbon's)
          Bad doc Sepp

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            #2645
            Originally posted by DDD777 View Post
            Bad doc Sepp
            Why do you think it's bad?

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              #2646
              hello Sepp

              Yes, the VB doc is unfortunately a fake:

              - bad rubber stamp
              - bad signature (should be the one of GdI Bodewin Keitel)
              - bad type of Diploma (in August 42, this is not this type of Diploma pattern which was used)

              Sorry
              Denis

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                #2647
                Originally posted by Denis View Post
                hello Sepp

                Yes, the VB doc is unfortunately a fake:

                - bad rubber stamp
                - bad signature (should be the one of GdI Bodewin Keitel)
                - bad type of Diploma (in August 42, this is not this type of Diploma pattern which was used)

                Denis
                Thanks a lot Denis for you analysis!

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                  #2648
                  So... this is the correct one?

                  (Photo credits to Team-Militaria.de)
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                  Last edited by Sepp45; 03-01-2017, 09:01 PM.

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                    #2649
                    Originally posted by Sepp45 View Post
                    So... this is the correct one?

                    (Photo credits to Team-Militaria.de)
                    Bad scan, but the doc looks much better that the first one

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                      #2650
                      Are the Baeranfanger docs for sale?

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                        #2651
                        Originally posted by Mike Gaspar View Post
                        Are the Baeranfanger docs for sale?
                        Part of his grouping is currently offered by Ratisbons, but the KC doc is bad... The other is a copy, I believe

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                          #2652
                          Originally posted by Sepp45 View Post
                          Part of his grouping is currently offered by Ratisbons, but the KC doc is bad... The other is a copy, I believe


                          i spoke to Klaus from ratisbons about it and this is what he wrote :

                          Thanks for following up.
                          We are aware that there are two different types existing. One is part of the grouping as an original, the other one as a copy. I assume a faker would have faked the „proper one" with Keitels signatures. I can't see anything wrong on the doc we have for sale.

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                            #2653
                            Originally posted by fasol View Post
                            ...I can't see anything wrong on the doc we have for sale.
                            For starters, it's the wrong style document - the Oberbefehlshaber des Heeres format was no longer in use by the Heerespersonalamt at this time. Then the stamp is wrong and the signature is wrong.

                            Here is one I sold a few years ago that shows what a RK VB from Aug '42 should look like.

                            Regards,
                            John
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                              #2654
                              I see 4 stars in the original stamp for example in the Port document.

                              On the Bärenfänger document i see 2 stars !

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                                #2655
                                RK preliminary award document to Wachtmeister Heinrich Engel
                                Geschützführer 2./Sturmgeschütz-Abteilung 259 / Heerestruppe
                                Presented on: November 2nd, 1943
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