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    #1606
    Originally posted by Ludwig View Post
    Johannes Bölter
    This is Bölter's funeral pillow.. same cross?
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      #1607
      Originally posted by Sepp45 View Post
      This is Bölter's funeral pillow.. same cross?
      I think it is the same....Tom

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        #1608
        Ludwig
        nice schickle crosses. I've been a fan of Bolters since reading about him years ago .

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          #1609
          Rudolf Pflanz - RK in August 1941

          Johannes Bölter - RK in April, 1944

          Ludwig - You mentioned before that the RK you showed earlier (935-4) must have been a later acquisition by the RK holder, as the award date (September, 1943) couldn't match the cross. Now that we know that the PKZ numbers did not date from 1944, as previously thought, but from, instead, 1942 (and maybe earlier), that can no longer be stated with certainty.

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            #1610
            legitimate proposition

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              #1611
              I found this footage from an old documentary about the life of Hans-Joachim Marseille made during the 70's.

              I don't know if this is the cross that was present at Uetersen Museum (and late got stolen) or something else.
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                #1612
                Originally posted by Leroy View Post
                Rudolf Pflanz - RK in August 1941

                Johannes Bölter - RK in April, 1944

                Ludwig - You mentioned before that the RK you showed earlier (935-4) must have been a later acquisition by the RK holder, as the award date (September, 1943) couldn't match the cross. Now that we know that the PKZ numbers did not date from 1944, as previously thought, but from, instead, 1942 (and maybe earlier), that can no longer be stated with certainty.
                I just repeated what Dietrich Maerz wrote, when I posted the Reinhardt cross the first time, some years ago. I don´t spend much time on KCs today.

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                  #1613
                  Originally posted by Sepp45 View Post
                  This is Bölter's funeral pillow.. same cross?
                  Guess so

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                    #1614
                    Generalmajor Joachim Coeler, Luftwaffe:
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                        #1616
                        Leutnant Eberhard Schaefer, Luftwaffe:
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                          #1617
                          Reverse of that mint Klein&Quenzer produced Ritterkreuz:
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                            #1618
                            Ludwig, thanks a lot for your help with the thread. Those are some impressive and wonderful crosses.

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                              #1619
                              Originally posted by Ludwig View Post
                              Generalmajor Joachim Coeler, Luftwaffe:
                              A photo of Generalmajor Coeler with a nice side view of the cross.
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                                #1620
                                Sorry, off topic, but these are two beautiful crosses.

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