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      Good photos Frank, thanks!

      One question: since the medals were stolen.. no one knows where they are or something? This gets me mad as hell Why museum's security didn't help to prevent this issue!

      Many medals got stolen over the years.. and no one seems to care about them.

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        At the old Luftwaffen-Museum there was no security or security system for the building or the individual rooms. When the museum was open to the public a couple conscripts were walking around and watching out - or not.

        As far as I know the thieves came at night, jumped the fence, entered the building - a former aircraft Hangar. Where the Hangar was, there were no buildings for the soldiers, so the area was kind of deserted. The barracks were guarded by a civilian security service - a few older guys for a very big area. The theft must have been "a piece of cake" for the burglars.

        The medal collection of the Museum was very big. About all the medals and the other material (uniforms, daggers, whatever) was donated by WW 2 Luftwaffe veterans who joined the new Bundeswehr Luftwaffe in the 1950ies and 1960ies.

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          Glad to see the rudders not stolen, perhaps too big, too heavy.

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            I must say that I am still confused by "Rudolph Marseille". Here is a death announcement and an appreciation card (both from Robert Tate's book on Marseille) and neither mentions a brother at all (although the death announcement, after giving the names of the natural father and mother, says "and all other relatives"). The appreciation card gives only the names of the stepfather, the mother, the girlfriend (fiancée) and the grandmother. (Hans-Joachim's sister, of course, was already dead.)

            In the thread I mentioned earlier (http://www.armchairgeneral.com/forum...ad.php?t=11725), it is said that the brother (Hans Rudolph Marseille), at the time of the thread (2004) was 80 years old (and had served on a minesweeper) meaning he would have been born 5 years after Hans-Joachim Marseille (born December 13, 1919). While it is mentioned in biographies that Marseille's parents divorced when he was very young (he used the last name of his stepfather - Reuter - while in elementary school), no date is given for the divorce, and so it can't be determned if the divorce was before or after the birth of any brother.

            The photo from the German edition of Kurowski's book earlier shown here, which ascribes the rudder in the museum at Uetersen as being on loan from the brother, does not appear in the English version published by Schiffer. Instead, the Schiffer version shows the same rudder shown in the Tate book
            (which says that the rudder was sent to the mother, who displayed it and other personal effects of Marseille in her apartment).

            I would love to find out more about "Hans Rudolph Marseille"! Brother, step-brother??
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              Regardless of the diamonds... Was that the RK awarded to HJM?

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                Here's a very rare photo! A postwar image of Generalleutnant Dr. Karl Mauss wearing his set of diamonds.
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                  Dr. Maus (and von Saucken and Marseille) never got their A- and B-Pieces. This picture is "photoshopped" during or shortly after the war.
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                    Originally posted by Dietrich Maerz View Post
                    Dr. Maus (and von Saucken and Marseille) never got their A- and B-Pieces. This picture is "photoshopped" during or shortly after the war.
                    Hi Dietrich! I'm not saying Maus got his piece during the war, maybe he bought a replacement for his postwar RK?

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                      And I never said you did say so. I only made a statement in regards to that photo which does not reflect the reality before May 8, 1945.
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                        Originally posted by Dietrich Maerz View Post
                        And I never said you did say so. I only made a statement in regards to that photo which does not reflect the reality before May 8, 1945.
                        I was hoping this studio photo was taken on his later life. Could it be possible for a diamond winner to buy a replacement piece?

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                          Hasso von Manteuffel notification of his diamonds award. (Credits of the photo of Huesken)
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                            Golden OL, Swords and Diamonds (Prototype version). Photo credits to http://www.ritterkreuz.us/
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                              Front view in box.
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                                Erich Hartmann's diamonds attached to his 1957 RK version.
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