Which one is more higher or desirable? German Cross or honor roll clasp?

[Cole Bush]

Hi Andrew,

very nice collection, for me, i like Honor roll clasp for Heeres!
here is a collection from China, not mine.

cole

[andrewb]

Thanks guys. They look very nice when cased and all together.



Hi Cole,

Yes I think most collectors do like the Army HRC the best hence it's the hardest to find. The document even harder!

Regards,
AB.

[Robert T.]

The topic in general is a little bit confusing. The first thing that happened was the "Naming in the armed forces report" (Nennung im Wehrmachtsbericht), which was introduced on April 27, 1940. After that came the creation of the "Ehrenblatt des Deutschen Heeres" on 15. July 1941. Only on 30. January 1944 the actual Honor Roll Clasp was created as a visual sign of the naming in the Honor Roll. The actual clasp was awarded retroactive to the soldiers named before that date in the Honor Roll.

So this is a case where the distinction or honor as such (the naming) was introduced in 1941, the actual visual decoration not until 1944.

The Kriegsmarine and the Luftwaffe are different. The KM introduced the Honor Roll on 23. February 1943 and the actual Clasp on 13. May 1944. The Luftwaffe Honor Roll and Clasp was introduced on the same day, 5. July 1944.

I think that any relation between the branches and comparisons are not correct. The institutional history speaks for itself.

Here's the ultimate grouping, he won both the Anerkennungsurkunde des Heeres and Ehrenblattspange!!!

Hermann Gustav Jochims. The document scans are from W. Jochims (Hermann's son)

Should I also mention that he also won the RK and the CCC in Gold!!!

02.10.1936- Dienstauszeichnung 4. Klasse
18.09.1939- EK2
09.01.1940- Erinnerung an den 1. Oktober 1938
25.07.1941- EK1
14.11.1941- Verwundetenabzeichen in Silber
31.03.1941- Infanterie Sturmabzeichen in Bronze
18.04.1942- Anerkennungsurkunde des Heeres
29.04.1943- Verwundetenabzeichen in Gold
03.06.1943- Deutsches Kreuz in Gold
23.07.1943- Winterschlacht im Osten
19.09.1943- Ritterkreuz
01.02.1944- Nahkampfspange in Silber
27.05.1944- Ehrenblatt des Deutschen Heeres
23.04.1945- Nahkampfspange in Gold
Panzervernichtungsstreifen (6)

Note: A soldier who received only the Anerkennungsurkunde was not entitled to wear the Honor roll clasp, both documents shown below are very similar in appearance but only the second document is for having been mentioned on the Honor Roll list

There are books available concerning the Honor roll and the Anerkennungsurkunde.
There is a book written by Horst Scheibert "Die Inhaber der Ehrenblatt- Spange des Heeres und der Waffen SS" that contains all Honor roll clasp wearers => 4556 times awarded.(According to Manfred Dörr only 4272 times awarded ?????)
And a book written by Manfred Dörr "Die Inhaber der Anerkennungsurkunde Des Obdh 1941 - 1945" contains the names of all the soldiers who received the AU. => only awarded 1322 times.

Info. taken from this thread:http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...earer+question

Cheers,
Robert

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[Cole Bush]

This grouping is very famous! very nice!
however something different between "Anerkennungsurkunde des Heeres and Ehrenblattspange".

[Ludwig]

Delicious, AB!!!

[andrewb]

Delicious, AB!!!

Regards,
AB.

[Robert T.]

This grouping is very famous! very nice!
however something different between "Anerkennungsurkunde des Heeres and Ehrenblattspange".

http://www.ww2awards.com/award/1978

Anerkennungsurkunde des Oberbefehlshabers des Heeres

"Since 1938 you could find a lot of different forms of Anerkennungs- or Erinnerungsurkunden (appriciation or commemorative documents) of many different German armies, corps, divisions, regiments and battalions, especially for good conduct and meritorious technical services in areas behind the lines or long boarder and guarding services.

This document for bravery was introduced as a new not wearable award September 6th, 1941 by Generalfeldmarschall Walter von Brauchitsch (1881-1948), then Oberbefehlshaber des Heeres or in English "supreme commander of the Army". The document was installed as "besondere Anerkennung für hervorragende Leistungen auf dem Schlachtfelde" or in English "particular appreciation for prominent achievements on the battlefield". It could be awarded to units or individual military for extraordinary bravery. The document was until December 1941 signed by von Brauchitsch and after that by Adolf Hitler (1889-1945), when he took over the office as Oberbefehlshaber des Heeres. The document was at first made in A5 size and after Hitler taking over command, it was designed in a new way and made in size A4.
The awarding was registered in the Wehrpaß/Soldbuch and personal file, and it could even be awarded posthumously.

Altogether some 1,267 soldiers of the army and 35 of the Waffen SS got this award. And ca. 20 units achieved this document"



Anerkennungsurkunde des OBdH für im Ehrenblatt Genannte

"This document is exactly the same as the "Anerkennungsurkunde des Oberbefehlshabers des Heeres" or in English "appreciation document of the supreme commander of the Army", but was given to persons, who in addition were mentioned in the Ehrenblatt des Deutschen Heeres (HONOR ROLL OF THE GERMAN ARMY). The difference is only to be seen by the award date, which is the same as that of the naming in the Ehrenblatt des Deutschen Heeres and thus since January 30th, 1944 also of the awarding of the Ehrenblatt-Spange."

Cheers,
Robert