Knights cross opinions please !!

[Peter Wiking]

Do i see a flaw in the beading ??

Cheers.
Peter Wiking

[Peter Wiking]

Flaw 9 o´clock arm ?

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Peter Wiking

[Peter Wiking]

Any more opinions ?

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Peter Wiking

[Lombard]

I am with Peter W, I dont like it eider.

Lombard

[Raym']

Im no RK expert, but I dont like it - I certainly wouldnt go for it myself.

[Dave Kane]

Ok lads....could this be an example of the remains of the S&L die before it gave up all together and thereafter produced the horrible 23grm crap with the 800 stamp on the upper right or left and flogged everywhere for a couple of years prior to just falling apart.....



Dave

[tom hansen]

Ok lads....could this be an example of the remains of the S&L die before it gave up all together and thereafter produced the horrible 23grm crap with the 800 stamp on the upper right or left and flogged everywhere for a couple of years prior to just falling apart.....



Dave

That is an interesting thought. Take a look again at the beading on the corners, as the 4 0clock does look good, but the others do not have the crisp characteristics of an original. The dates on the core, however, as noted above, do not match the originals. Is this what you think it is, Dave? The beading at the corners near the swaz is damn close- do you think it is just from wear as you have suggested?

[Dave Kane]

Tom, I think that the S&L die finally just gave away! However, during its post war use the defect got worse and worse and finally ended up supporting the the 23 grm piece of crap with the 800 on the upper left/right flange of the brass frame that (came) from England.


Certain 'hints' suggest post '45 crosses but the 70's sloppy crap just shout...

Dave

[tom hansen]

So by that theory, the more die flaws, the further away the date of manufacture of the piece? Also, the less crisp the beading at the corners? I guess that certainly gives one pause to own any S&L with die flaws.

[Dave Kane]

Tom, yes that has been the suspicion for quite a while and logical in thought but there are ofcourse other camps!

I hope not to step on other collector's toes but as is commonly known...I'm not a supporter of the war time 'die flaw' ...


The other item of interest on these crosses is the 'flat' or otherwise 'worn-out' appearing beading. I like a nice sharp slap of the hammer

Dave