EK1 mm "26" B.H. Mayer with uncommon 3rd Pinsetup!

[5tefan]

Here you can see an other EK1 Pinsetup variant of B.H. Mayer.
After Fabrizio showed me this EK1 variant, which I saw the first time,
I'm focused on that Pinsetup variant, to get it for my database.

Now, I'm very happy that I cought this EK1 variant

I will call it the B.H. Mayer 3rd Pinsetup Variant
- see the picture variety of shapes.

1st Pinsetup is the common type of a BHM EK1.
2nd Pinsetup is not so common type for a BHM EK1.
3rd Pinsetup - Did see only 2 crosses so far.

[Douglas 5]

Interesting new pin variation ... to go with 3 cores .
It is very close to your #2 . Looking at trying to save on material during the war ... it would seam to be a trend . ... in order of your 1 - 3 - 2 . In that sence your pin 3 would be a very short lived transitional pin and this would account for the low numbers .
BTW how thick is your pin 1 ?

Douglas

[Woolgar]

A very interesting observation Stefan!

Nick

[5tefan]

Interesting new pin variation ... to go with 3 cores .
It is very close to your #2 . Looking at trying to save on material during the war ... it would seam to be a trend . ... in order of your 1 - 3 - 2 . In that sence your pin 3 would be a very short lived transitional pin and this would account for the low numbers .
BTW how thick is your pin 1 ?

Douglas

Hi Douglas,

sorry but I haven't got the EK1 of pin 1 for measurement.
You know, to get a lot of EK1 in a short time, I have to sell them to getting money for new EK1

[Wik]

Hi Douglas,

sorry but I haven't got the EK1 of pin 1 for measurement.
You know, to get a lot of EK1 in a short time, I have to sell them to getting money for new EK1

Well start selling Junckers to me


I prefer this pin set to the 1st. I don't much like the 1st that Mayer used, for the pin or the hinge. I prefer the W&L and K&Q/Juncker pin setups. Nice block hinges with coke bottle pins. This "3rd" for Mayer looks similiar to W&L or even Duemer pins, I like it

[streptile]

Interesting pin for a Mayer. Good find I know the swollen pin (labeled "1st") is definitely their earliest pin, but I wonder if this pin is their 2nd or their 3rd pin. What evidence is there?

Thanks for showing the cross 5tefan. I think this one is a keeper

Interesting new pin variation ... to go with 3 cores.

I know only one core for B.H. Mayer. Has there been a thread in which the other 2 cores are shown?

[Douglas 5]

Yes Trevor ... there are other cores Mayer used ... a comparison I did with samples obtained from WMA members here . Probably befor you joined ... with a pin comparison . As with my early pictures - the owners names were not added ... left is mine and the other WMA members - core date the same .

The scarcity of last found pin would sugest to me it being a short lived first attempt material saving step - as indecated in post 2 - but excelerated quickly to what he refers to 3rd pin . I am thinking a progression from - bigger/ thicker to smaller/lighter .
Just using 1st, 2nd and 3rd by itself .... is too vage and open to be associated with a placement/sequence - rank/order . Somewhat nutral - pin 1, 2, 3 .
Some items/parts can be associated as 1st . In this case the 'swollen' pin as you mention is Mayers 1st . I have one on a silver frame and with most likely first core .

I should point out that there seams to be a variation : pin 1 and 2 - both the wide type - are most likely a variation of each other - only 2 pin types shown here as the last one is not yet included .

Douglas

[Douglas 5]

The pin 1 variants :
The massive pin I have is thicker than both halves together .
Picture is bad and do not have the measurement of the other one ...only that his pin and frame halves were the same thickness . Also too that the silver planchets on mine may be thinner to start with ... making the pin look thicker ?

Douglas

[DaveNZ]

Nice crosses: 26 is my favourite maker mark for EK1s.

I always thought my mint 26 was from the russian hoarde but according to the pin type it isnt. interesting!

cheers

dave

[ben bijker]

Interesting new pin variation ... to go with 3 cores .
It is very close to your #2 . Looking at trying to save on material during the war ... it would seam to be a trend . ... in order of your 1 - 3 - 2 . In that sence your pin 3 would be a very short lived transitional pin and this would account for the low numbers .
BTW how thick is your pin 1 ?

Douglas

I think you have the right order, Douglas.
Most ek's with the 2nd pin shown have a crappy paint-job, so lack the quality of the earlier crosses.

best regards,
Ben