War Merit Cross with Swords 1st Class Medal

[Moman]

Real or fake and what is it worth?

Thx

[wvdparis2]

Not an original Deumer... Fake "L/11" stamp

at the first sight I will think to a reworked souval (from a wartime or postwar Souval?)
Or maybe a new fake ?
can you post pics of the pin ?

Michael

[Moman]

Real or fake and what is it worth?

Thx

I'll see if I can get more pics. The L is to low on the L/11.

[BMB]

IMO S&L tombac.

Bestr regards
Martin

[wvdparis2]

I'll see if I can get more pics. The L is to low on the L/11.

no doubt the mm is a fake stamp, the cross itself need more investigation but even if original (souval ?) or not, definitively altered with the fake mark

[BMB]

Hi!
This cross has in my opinion the same design as S&L has on their tombac crosses, if the L/11 mark is fake or not I do not know, but it does not look like it normally do on KVK's or EK's, but on the other hand I don't see it as impossible that one can find a Deumer mm on an S&L cross , in fact both manufacturers are from Lüdenscheid.

Best regards
Martin

[George Stimson]

Here is (first) a Tombak S&L, and then a screwback Souval, for comparison purposes.