EKII For Identification Please

[Tim O.]

Hi Guys

This EKII came with the same group as the EKI I posted in the forum today. If it is original to the group it was awarded 27th May 1940. Would this fit? Do you know the maker?

Thanks for the help.

[Tim O.]

Detail of the swastika and frame....

[Tim O.]

Any thoughts on this one?

[Tim O.]

Anyone?

[streptile]

Tough one Tim.

Not much very distinctive about this type, so we call it the "standard type." It uses components thought to have been sourced or manufactured by Steinhauer u. Lück.

While it may be possible to put a maker to this cross, it would require a large database of images and a lot of dedication.

[Tim O.]

Thanks for the help. That is good enough for me.

[kriztof]

Hi Guys

If it is original to the group it was awarded 27th May 1940. Would this fit?

Thanks for the help.

I believe most of the awarded pieces were unmarked or unmarked with/without a manufacturers logo on the award envelope, although I'm not 100% certain about that


Chris

[streptile]

Interesting thought -- I agree that all awarded pieces from the early years were unmarked. Unlike with 1914 EKs, we don't see makers' initials (Fr., WS, S-W, G, etc) or logos (Meybauer, AWS) on awarded 1939 EKs. So there must have been some directive to leave the crosses unmarked in the beginning. But certainly after the institution of the PKZ, all awarded pieces were supposed to be marked with a maker's number, and I do believe that most were marked.

[Tim O.]

I primarily collect documents and sometimes the awards come too but most often they do not. I buy in the awards for display purposes and try to match the award periods and photographic evidence as closely as I can. From the research I have done my understanding is that any awarded EKI or EKII from 1941 or earlier will not be marked. As it happens none of the examples in my collection are therefore marked, which makes establishing the makers a bit more of a challenge!

Your expertise is much appreciated.