Ehrenblatt Spange

[Tiger88]

Even as a relatively inexperienced collector, I can tell this is . . . . . .CRAP!!

[Stormfighter]

I think you guys need to regroup and rethink this. I bought this with a lot of original German WWII items directly from the son of World War II veteran. John Telesmanich of Germanwarbooty.com was my witness. I paid very little for the grouping and everything in the lot was original. I am not going to tell you that I definitively know that this clasp is original because I am far from an expert on these - all I know is that I bought it along with about a dozen original German WWII items which I will gladly post here. John seems to think it is a late-war version. I certainly didn't put this on the WAF to rip off anybody as I was convinced it was original. It would be nice if WAF members could try to remain objective and restrain from insults - I am particularly directing this to you Germanmedals.

Barry

[Stormfighter]

John bought a few items from the vet lot and here are the remaining items.

[John T]

This is obviously not the standardized version with the four pins on the back however has it ever been shown if the quality on these deteriorated with production shifting to a poorer base-metal and simpler reverse assembly-

At any rate comments about how long somebody has been collecting and what his other items look like are not constructive...surely there are fakes that look exactly like originals and originals that can be dismissed as POS's-

Best,

John

[Bruce Simcox]

Hi Barry......

.......I don't have dog in this fight, but

surely there are fakes that look exactly like originals and originals that can be dismissed as POS's-

what John has said has happened on the Forum in the past.

[all1knew]

Hello there,

You can stretch the logic and state that this "may" have been an unofficial field-made version or you can dismiss it as a fake immediately. With that being said, Vets (or their sons) did pick up reproductions post-war, and I have seen this first hand.

At any rate, you are going to have a VERY hard time finding a buyer for this one IMO.

William Kramer

[RKC]

It's a German 'WALMART' version....The soldier is a little strapped for Reichmarks so he can go to their 'Walmart' & purchase the "lower priced" version & you get what you pay for!

Ron

[Stormfighter]

John Telesmanich reminded me that this "134" DKiG was purchased in the same lot as the Ehrenblattspange. It's very easy to ridicule something that you haven't seen before and are unable to either provide photos or references to other such examples. I personally think it's important to keep your minds open. As John has mentioned, in the past, some things that have been deemed original on the WAF have turned out to be fakes and things that have been deemed fake on the WAF have been deemed original. I am reminded of an M-43 officer's cap that was poo-pooed for a lengthy period of time, an example of which I acquired from a veteran. As time passed, other examples appeared from vet sources, including another one recently. Finally, a wartime photo surfaced and the doubters were silenced.
I am the world's greatest skeptic when it comes to World War II German fakes and would never have thought about listing the Ehrenblattspange if I thought it had any chance of being a fake. It's unproductive to make silly jokes and make personal attacks against WAF members, especially when items are acquired directly from veterans or their children. I am well aware of the fact that veterans and their children bought fakes after the war - I have personally seen this; however, in this case, I am not convinced, nor is John, who has studied German awards for years and is the first to let a collector know if he thinks an award is a reproduction.
I would like to ask you medal collectors to archive the photos of this Ehrenblattspange and record the fact that it was acquired from the son of a veteran along with many other items, all of which were original. Could it be fake? Sure, but collectors like John and me like to see solid evidence before brushing them aside, especially when the source is good. There is still a lot to learn.

Barry

[Stormfighter]

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[Flemming]

Could it be fake? Sure, but collectors like John and me like to see solid evidence before brushing them aside, especially when the source is good. There is still a lot to learn.

Barry

For the most, non advanced collector, I think it would be wiser to take it the oterh way around.
Could it be good, sure, but I would like to see solid evidence, before keeping it as good, even though the source is good.

Just my opinion.

/Flemming