1939 EK2 Master List

[ctcole77]

Wow

Thx for your help guys! I identified 3 of my EK1s!

[alexjwelirang]

New to EKII's

Hi guys, i'm new to collecting the EKII and have many questions as i've been focusing on documents. Here are my questions: What does B-type mean? How can you identify a B.H Mayer EKII unmarked variant from a Deschler & Sohn EKII unmarked variant? How do you identify a schinkel form EKII (is it from the material used? When i see photos of schinkel form EKII's to other variants, they look quite similar. I thought it had to do with the size but i must be wrong). What does Core A, B, C mean? What does LDO mean?

[realone]

Hi Trevor, I have an EK2 marked 925 on the ring, it was in the Gordon Williamson Book a few years ago, on page 83 under Ed Anderson's name, which I got from him a few years ago, do we know where this one fits in yet? or is it the silver content?


Best
Greg

[Wolfgang Schwar]

Hi Trevor, I have an EK2 marked 925 on the ring, it was in the Gordon Williamson Book a few years ago, on page 83 under Ed Anderson's name, which I got from him a few years ago, do we know where this one fits in yet? or is it the silver content?


Best
Greg

Hi.I think the highest maker No. is 138 Julius Maurer.Best regards Wolfgang.

[Dansson]

Could be a silver content mark?

[realone]

Thanks guys, I think its the silver content also,,only one I have ever seen, does anyone else have one to show? Trevor your thoughts?

Greg

[streptile]

Hey Greg,

I know 925 as a silver marking on Imperial EK2 rings. It signifies sterling silver, and sterling silver frames are pretty easy to identify in-hand. They tarnish deeply and evenly. I've never seen that mark on a 1939 EK so I'd guess it's a replaced ring but without pics it's hard to say for sure.

[netkuuk]

Nice list I also want to start collecting ek2 but there are so many for sale.

Which makers are rare and should i buy when i see them?

[dannyboy759]

Deschler & Sohn 1
B-Type/Prototype
Round-3 "Thick Frame" variant
Round-3 "Deschler Frame" variant
unmarked
marked "1"

C.E. Juncker 2
WFS frame (non-mag. WFS core)
WFS frame (mag. WFS core)
crunch-bead frame (non-mag. WFS core)
crunch bead frame (mag., Juncker core) aka "full Juncker"
crunch bead frame (mag., W&L core)
crunch bead frame (mag., L/12 marked) (1)
common L/12 type frame (unmarked)
common L/12 type frame (marked L/12)

Wilhelm Deumer 3
Schinkel (mag.)
Schinkel (non-mag.)
unmarked
marked 3
marked L/11

Steinhauer & Lück 4
unmarked
marked 4
marked L/16
marked 4 and L/16


Fritz Zimmermann 6
thin beading frame unmarked, slim date numerals core
thin beading frame marked 6.
fat beading frame marked 6.

Paul Meybauer 7
Schinkel glossy paint
Schinkel matte paint
unmarked
marked 7
marked L/13
marked 7 and L/13

Grossmann & Co. 11
unmarked
marked 11

Frank & Reif 12
Ubergroße (unmarked)
Ubergroße "Little Brother" (unmarked)

Gustav Brehmer 13
unmarked
marked 13

L. Christian Lauer 14
unmarked
marked 14



Friedrich Orth 15
Unmarked
marked 15

Alois Rettenmaier 16
unmarked
marked 16

E. Ferd Weidmann 19
unmarked
marked 19

Gebrüder Godet 21
unmarked early frame type
unmarked later frame type
marked 21 later frame type

Boerger & Co. 22
unmarked
marked 22

Arbeitsgemeinschaft für Heeresbedarf in der Graveur- und Ziselierinnung 23
unmarked
marked 23 with 23 core
marked 23 Meybauer core

Arbeitsgemeinschaft der Hanauer Plakettenhersteller 24
unmarked
unmarked with ancillary mark on jumping: (list needed)
marked 24
marked 24 with ancillary mark on jumping: (list needed)


Arbeitsgemeinschaft der Graveur-, Gold- und Silberschemiedeinnungen 25
unmarked
marked 25

B.H. Mayer
Schinkel (unmarked) (1)
unmarked (Schinkel core/LDO frame) (1)
unmarked (regular Mayer core/LDO frame) (1)
marked L/18

Anton Schenkl's Nachf. (Maria Schenkl) 27
unmarked with # frame
marked 27 with # frame
marked 27 with standard frame

F.W. Assmann & Söhne 35
Schinkel (non-mag)
Schinkel (mag)

Berg & Nolte 40
unmarked
marked 40

Jakob Bengel 44
unmarked
marked 44



Gottlieb & Wagner 52
unmarked
marked 52

J.E. Hammer & Söhne 55
unmarked
marked 55

Robert Hauschild 56
unmarked
marked 56 core 1
marked 56 core 2

Katz & Deyhle 60
unmarked
marked 60

Klein & Quenzer A.G. 65
unmarked core 1
marked 65 core 1
marked 65 core 2
marked 65 core 3
marked 65 core 4
marked 65 core 5

Friedrich Keller 66
marked 66

75 (Unknown Maker)
unmarked
marked 75

Ernst L. Müller 76
unmarked
marked 76

Paulmann & Crone 86
unmarked (non-mag)
unmarked (mag)

Richard Simm & Söhne 93
marked 93

Rudolf Souval 98
unmarked
marked 98
marked L/58

Rudolf Wächtler & Lange 100
unmarked
marked 100
marked L55

Brüder Schneider 106
marked 106

Walter & Henlein 109
unmarked

Hermann Aurich 113
Unmarked
marked 113

Funke & Brunninghaus 116
unmarked
marked L/56

Franz Petzl 120
unmarked
marked 120

J.J. Stahl 122
marked 122

Beck, Hassinger & Co. 123
marked 123
marked [123]

Eugen Gauss 125
marked 125

Moritz Hausch A.G. 127
unmarked (1)(2)

S. Jablonski G.m.b.H. 128
marked 128

Franz Reischauer 132
marked 132

J.H. Werner 137
marked 137


Julius Maurer 138
marked 138

Schauerte & Hohfeld 140
Schinkel (non-mag)
Schinkel (mag)
unmarked
marked L/54

Otto Schickle L/15
Schinkel one-piece (mag)
Schinkel one-piece (non-mag)
unmarked (mag.)
unmarked (non-mag.)
marked L/15 (mag.)
marked L/15 (non-mag.)

Petz & Lorenz (no number known)
one-piece unmarked

Unknown Makers
"Long Flaw" "Lug variant." Two cores known: "Small RK core" and "Juncker WFS" core.
"Lug" unmarked. Three core types known: typical lug core "small RK" core, and "Juncker WFS" core.
"Lug" marked Z
"Small Frame" uses Juncker's "WFS core" but has a different frame.
Round-3 beveled-edge frame
Round-3 swas-on-pedestal, pebbled core surface (possible Deschler)
Straight-9 Schinkel
Unknown Maker Schinkel
"Odd Date"
"8" variant, this cross is not manufactured by maker 8, it just doesn't have another name.
"Straight-Arm" variant
Spanish-made (various types)