Opinions on EK1

[5tefan]

What processes are need to produce this One Piece EK1?
Casting? Stamping? Preforming? Pressing? Squeezing? etc....

How much steps was needed to produce a One Piece EK1.
Is it possible to rotate the frame?

If I compare the fotos, I see that the postion of the number is moving.

And the EK2 looks like a casting product.

[streptile]

If I compare the fotos, I see that the postion of the number is moving.

Hi Stefan,

Are you suggesting the frame is the same on this cross and the "Gun Show Floch"? In my opinion they look similar but are absolutely different, and not just rotated. The bead count is different, but more than that the overall shape is different.

[StefanK.]

i compared them again. The "gun-show-fake" is bigger than the "mystery-cross" - and not only the frame but also the ribbed portion is wider in any angle.

[5tefan]

Hi Stefan,

Are you suggesting the frame is the same on this cross and the "Gun Show Floch"? In my opinion they look similar but are absolutely different, and not just rotated. The bead count is different, but more than that the overall shape is different.

Hi Trevor,

it's a good argument

1:0 for this cross.

Does someone have information about the process steps?

[5tefan]

100% Fake!!!

It is a fake from France. This is 100% a FAKE!!!
The tool was sold at Reichertshofen (Germany).

[5tefan]

What the relationship is to the L15 marked cross, is still a big "?" to me.
But same frame structure (turned 45°) and simular number design!

Did Floch made the tool for France?

[5tefan]

here is the EK2-type.

That cross is really a mystery. It looks so ugly that it makes me belive it is original. Once a forum member posted one from the estate of a luftwaffe-soldier. But that is no proof of course.

What i can contribute is, that the manufacturer used two types of hinge-setups. My second cross (like the one Trevor showed) does have a little different hinge than the cross shown at the beginning of the thread.

many greetings,

Stefan

And the EK2 was also produced @ France!!! And is 100% a Fake!

[5tefan]

Hi Trevor,

it's a good argument

1:0 for this cross.

Does someone have information about the process steps?

What is the new score now?

1:1 ? or 1: 10

[boch_62]

I do not know why, but looked at pictures of these crosses EK1 and EK2 like "Fake Gun Show" as soon as I think of the cross frame EK2-1813 from the book of H.Geissler (page 55) - but it's only a loose association ...

Regards
Jarek

[5tefan]

I do not know why, but looked at pictures of these crosses EK1 and EK2 like "Fake Gun Show" as soon as I think of the cross frame EK2-1813 from the book of H.Geissler (page 55) - but it's only a loose association ...

Regards
Jarek

Hi Jarek,

I like the EK1 book from Harald Geißler ;-)
It was my first EK1 book, with very good information for me
Special I like the Straight 9 Screwback Variant

If you read the text carefuly you will see that EK1 was build with a 8 part silver frame. So it can not be the variant we talking about. But from far it looks very simular.