L12 Juncker RK an Named DK

[mayhem_z]

i can't believe the RK is a fake!

[Flemming]

They (the fakers) are getting better indeed.

/Flemming

[Ludwig]

Yes, really! Here is an original one.

[Ludwig]

and compared to the fakes...

[Ludwig]

you have to consider that perhaps the photos are not taken 90° to the object

[StefanK.]

thats really a very good fake!

[Ludwig]

After all a picture is just a picture. The real moment of truth comes when you hold it in your hand. I guess.

[Leroy]

The one I saw in person looked very, very good. If you didn't have some reference available to you, or had actually memorized every single minute characteristic (which most of us, including me, have not), you could very easily believe one of these.

[Ludwig]

I held one of these at MAX. It is a breathtaking fake. It was being sold as a repro by a very honest dealer.

There are, as far as I know so far, two fatal differences between this and a genuine Juncker RK frame. But you really need to be in close to this thing to detect them.

And who might that dealer be???

[Leroy]

Another compare:

[Ludwig]

Difference in weight and measures?

[Rolfi]

Hello,

is there I zoom picture of the revers.
I want to see the 1813 and L/12 800 with zoom.

Thanks
Rolfi

[Rolfi]

Hello,

is there a zoom picture of the revers.
I want to see the 1813 and L/12 800 with zoom.

Thanks
Rolfi

[Ludwig]

Hello,

is there a zoom picture of the revers.
I want to see the 1813 and L/12 800 with zoom.

Thanks
Rolfi

www.hermann-historica.de

[Leroy]

Ludwig - Is your link to Hermann Historica the same cross? The one that started this is on a site called Cowan's Auction.

In Post 40, if you look at the right side beading of the upper arm and compare them between the crosses, you will see a significant difference.