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    EK1 1914 L/12 early Screwback

    Hi ;-)

    I don't know if I should put this cross into the Imperial section, but it's marked with L/12! I think, I need a 1914 EK1 Expert, because it is not a typical WW2 (Juncker or W&L) frame.

    Is this EK1 an authentic Juncker? All opinion are welcome ;-)

    Thanks in advance






    #2
    Very nice Stefan.

    I have the same one. The frame is the one Stimson & Maerz call the "common L/12 type" (p. 106) and is frequently seen on their LdO 1914 EK1s. In my opinion a very nice and 100% original early Juncker. You can also see it is early (probably 1941?) because of the 2-pc SB attachments, but especially because the early Junckers used a very narrow (thin) screwpost. Later they used a wider one.
    Best regards,
    Streptile

    Looking for ROUND BUTTON 1939 EK1 Spange cases (LDO or PKZ)

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      #3
      Originally posted by streptile View Post
      Very nice Stefan.

      I have the same one. The frame is the one Stimson & Maerz call the "common L/12 type" (p. 106) and is frequently seen on their LdO 1914 EK1s. In my opinion a very nice and 100% original early Juncker. You can also see it is early (probably 1941?) because of the 2-pc SB attachments, but especially because the early Junckers used a very narrow (thin) screwpost. Later they used a wider one.
      The pictures on page 106 are unfortunately too small. Not easy for compare.
      Trevor, could you share to us your pictures of this type?
      Last edited by 5tefan; 08-27-2011, 04:18 PM.

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        #4
        Hi Stefan,

        Originally posted by 5tefan View Post
        Trevor, could you share to us your pictures of this type?
        Here are some photos of my cross.







        Originally posted by 5tefan View Post
        The pictures on page 106 are unfortunately too small. Not easy for compare.
        The easiest way to distinguish this frame is by the strange flaws to the beading in a few places. I have shown below some spots on your cross where the beading is "doubled". Of course this frame also does not have Juncker's "crunched bead," but it is not the only one of Juncker's frames that does not have that feature.

        Last edited by streptile; 08-28-2011, 11:33 PM.
        Best regards,
        Streptile

        Looking for ROUND BUTTON 1939 EK1 Spange cases (LDO or PKZ)

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          #5
          Didn't know that for this screw back system were 4 or more different frame used ;-)
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            #6
            here's a fifth one..
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              #7
              Originally posted by ben bijker View Post
              here's a fifth one..
              Hi Ben,

              Many Thanks for showing Very nice and rare type!
              I will keep my eyes open, to get this type too.

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                #8
                You're welcome, Stefan.
                Good luck on finding one, never seen another but this one, so they are rare...

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                  #9
                  and this one, this has a Juncker core and frame, but no mm.
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                    #10
                    reverse
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                      #11
                      I see no end, in getting all known EK1 types!

                      Very nice EK1, Ben. Hope I can get such EK1 types a.s.a.p!

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                        #12
                        There IS no end, at least: there seems to be no end.
                        The more you search,the more odd and rare crosses you find....

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                          #13
                          Many Thanks for your feedback ;-)

                          And many thanks to Militaria Berlin for the loan ;-)

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