EK1 1939: opinion please

[valsente]

Hello guys,
what do you think about this cross and which could be the mm if original?
Thanks in advance
Val

[Hofstetter]

Looks like a Souval, not sure about that pin and catch on the back though,better wait for other opinions on that

[streptile]

In my opinion not made by Souval at any time, but rather an EK1 version of this fake EK2:



Core looks the same as the new breed "Stuttgart" fakes. Hardware is total fantasy.

[5tefan]

The pin setup doesn't match to the obverse!

[valsente]

The pin setup doesn't match to the obverse!

Yes, but I've seen the same setup on some EK1 1914. Could it be made by a !914 maker?

[streptile]

Yes, but I've seen the same setup on some EK1 1914.

I'm sorry, but I don't think that is true. I don't think you will find this pin on any 1914 EK1. Here is a pin that resembles yours -- but it is only close, not the same:



Unfortunately your entire cross is postwar. I have no doubts about that.

The core is from the "Stuttgart" fake. The pin is a total fake. The only question for me is whether the original Souval frames were used.

[valsente]

Hi Trevor,
thanks a lot for your explanation.
Val