Odd one-piece ek2, opinions please

[ben bijker]

This was at an auction a while ago.
I decided to skip, because it reminded me too much of the one-piece L15 that are doing thee round.

I knew who won it and ask if he would send it over so I could check it out in hand, so here are some pics.

The cross is magnetic, silver plated under the paint and also has a copper coating that looks like brass on the front.

it weighs 27.6 gr.
height : 43.60 mm
width: 43.83mm

I have to admit that I am still leaning towards fake, but if it is, they put a lot of effort in aging it.

Best regards,
Ben

[ben bijker]

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[streptile]

Hi Ben,

I have to admit that I am still leaning towards fake, but if it is, they put a lot of effort in aging it.

I know just what you mean. I have an EK1 version of this cross in my "maybe box." Weitze sold one of these -- or may still have it -- for about €300.

[5tefan]

It is not the typical L15 fake.
See picture of L15 fake.

[ben bijker]

It is indeed a bit different, but the similarities are very big.

What's most confusing is that it is magnetic.
Except for the one-piece Schickle-Schinkels, all 1-piece crosses I have handled so far are non-magnetic.

There's a lot of wear to the cross, almost too much for an ek2 (which were hardly ever worn)

On the other hand: iron with a copper plating, then silver-plating and panted, that is the correct way .

This bugger is really very much confusing me, so fire away please!

[streptile]

Hi Ben,

My EK1, which is a match to your EK2, is non-magnetic. It looks a bit more silvery.

[ben bijker]

Trev, can you post a link or a pic??

[streptile]

Trev, can you post a link or a pic??

Yes of course Ben.

To be honest I am about 90% (fake) to 10% (real) on this one.

In fact, the pin is the only magnetic part of this cross. Not the hinge or the catch -- only the pin.

[fledermaus1945]

EKII magnetic

Hello, EK interesting. Who makes himself a work in a copy? If it is not magnetic, I would assume would be 90% from each copy.
Greeting fledermaus1945

Search EK2 (1939) with producer: 14, 21, (57), 103, 136 +Lpieces (12; 14; 15, 18, 54, 55, 56) and unlabeled pieces from the Manufacturer 8, 12, and 28 with bag if available, or pouch. Schinkel "B” with the round "3" and EK2 straight with the "3".

[ben bijker]

Hi Peter,

odd as it may seem, 90% of all original 1-piece crosses are non-magnetic....
Only some 1-piece Schinkel from Schickle are magnetic, but some of the are non-magnetic as well.

I still don't know what to think of this odd ek2...

Ben

Thanks for posting the pics Trevor !!

[kriztof]

I just came across this thread while searching for something else. I was taken by the thick wide catch on Trevor's EK1 which reminded me of the type used on the Imperial blue cores.

What was the final verdict regarding these?

Chris

[kriztof]

I found a few pics of the imperial Ek that bears a resemblance, catch wise, to the one posted. Notice the pin material used on the left photo, as compared to Trevor's. They are similar if not the same material, rough, porous, not smooth like most.

May be nothing but...


Chris