german cross in silver

[tbgbc]

can anyone give me there opinions on this ebay item please

270730932443

thank you
gary

[PAB_Collector]

Your kidding, right?

[tbgbc]

why what the matter with it?
i know its not a third reich dkis but why do you think im kidding, a anderson the seller guarantees authenticity
its still a wehrmacht award isnt it?

[JamesT]

No - IMO pure fantasy

[PAB_Collector]

If your buying a 57' cross, maybe, but you would have to post that in the correct forum

[Don D.]

No - IMO pure fantasy

Wrong.

[Johnny R]

In the pictures it looks like an "early" 57er pattern DKiS.


http://cgi.ebay.com/849-Wehrmacht-Ge...item3f09a9fcf6


The DKiS was related to the KVK series of awards and the 57 Versions had a plain faced KVK with swords.

http://axisawards.homestead.com/DK1957.html

[all1knew]

can anyone give me there opinions on this ebay item please

270730932443

thank you
gary

To answer your question, it does look like a good one to me. Where are the experts on the 57' stuff?

William Kramer

[Johnny R]

I thought Don and I did a fair job of addressing if it was real and what our opinions were. I am old enough to have seen a lot of the 57er series awards being worn by BW officers when I was in the Army and it was a pleasure which borke up the mundane nature of NATO Parades and reviews. I like these and the DKiS is very rare for the 1957 series even though many more were made than wear worn by WWII awardees in BW Uniform. I talked to one RKT and he had told me he had his awards and did indeed have a full set of 1957 awards the Government either gave him or he purchased after he had lost all of his originals as a Soviet POW.

[all1knew]

I thought Don and I did a fair job of addressing if it was real and what our opinions were.

Indeed you and Don were spot on; I agree, it is real but if I remember correctly there were different makers of this award and perhaps a more "57" guy could comment on that aspect as well.

William Kramer

[Johnny R]

I traded a catalog in the 80s from one company that sold all the awards and ribbon bars I got from a RKT and was too stupid to keep it.

[Engelfeuer]

What's with the rudeness? we're here to help eachother out! Instead of saying "are you serious?" just tell him it'd be better off in the 57er forum.

[Matthieu]

No need to post in the 57er forum ... I can tell you right now this piece is pure and utter crap .

Not only is it poorly made, its even a copy of what a 57er DKis should look like.
If the seller is guaranteeing authenticity, he will probably write it with pencil on a piece of paper ... .

Value ... well ... maybe if you melt down the metal ....

Grtz
Mathijs

[Johnny R]

What's with the rudeness? we're here to help eachother out! Instead of saying "are you serious?" just tell him it'd be better off in the 57er forum.

There was no rudeness aside from assumptions, I do not think it is a "fake" just an early example. Experts of 57 awards is a fun Noun. Several firms made them and I was there in the early 80s talking to Staff officers that were WWII vets so please enlighten me.