EK II spange on e-stand

[Tiger88]

I think this need to be discussed
http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...d.php?t=522117

// Thomas

[tinmantis]

wot's the problem with it?
regards
jon

[ben bijker]

I don't see anything wrong either (?)
Textbook Ziemer

ben

[WEISNER]

Well.... I will take a stab at discussing it!!! IMO it is a fine Ziemer & Söhne Spange that has a wonderful finish and sharp, crisp details, and were I looking for one this one would be for sure purchased!
Best Regards!
Kevin

[Tiger88]

I brought this up because of the difference in the gap between the head and top of the wings. From what I can read here on the forum that's a warning sign. I'm not saying it's a fake, just that compared to this Ziemer from another thread(see pic), there's a big difference. Maybe it's just the pic, or I dont see properly
Since I'm trying to learn, maybe someone can take a look and enlighten me.

// Thomas

[Woolgar]

I brought this up because of the difference in the gap between the head and top of the wings. From what I can read here on the forum that's a warning sign. I'm not saying it's a fake, just that compared to this Ziemer from another thread(see pic), there's a big difference. Maybe it's just the pic, or I dont see properly
Since I'm trying to learn, maybe someone can take a look and enlighten me.

// Thomas

I can see your concern Thomas, I thought the same about that gap. I still have much to learn !

Nick

[Flemming]

I am with you Thomas, I am not a big fan of the one shown on the E-stand.

/Flemming

[tinmantis]

better pics would help, it's a little over exposed
regards
jon

[CMSgt]

spange

I tried to darken the one being discussed so that details could be seen, but the flash wiped out the pebbling almost.

Concerns:

The closeness of the beak to the right wing tip.
There looks to be a seam around the head and continuing on the inside of the wings.
Pebbling looks weak, but as I can see on mine these is an S shape of peebles between the 9 and 3.
The eye of the 9s look to be bigger.

Could be another die that the manufacturer used.

Anyway here is a picture of mine with the one that started this discussion.

Jim

[Flemming]

Hi Jim.

nice comparison, but all it did, was make me like it even less.
So I still thinks

/Flemming

[Woolgar]

So the smaller gap between the back of the eagles head to the wing is not a conern?

Nick

[streptile]

Personally I don't see anything wrong with this one.

It's easy to get worked up over photos that are from different angles, under different lighting conditions, etc.

I would buy this piece in a hot second if I needed it.

[CMSgt]

Spange

Trevor, as you say pictures are hard to decipher, and I would like to see a better picture (without flash) so that we can clearly see the peebling.

With the current picture it is hard to make a decision one way or the other. I would also like to see a side shot of the spange, weight and measurement. Ciritone can you provide better pictures and information?

Jim

[Montgomery Burns]

i am no expert on these


but it seems the 1939 numbers are very different from these two ...

Especially the 3 and 9 thickness seem so different .


The 2 leaves under the swastika are aether no match,,,especially the left one

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[ciritione]

here it is a picture without flash for the comparison