Deumer EK1 with strange clamshell !!!

[5tefan]

What do you think about the clamshell?
I put this EK1 on E-Stand, but I got a PN that this disc is a fake.
That's why I canceled my offer at E-Stand and bring this EK1 up for discussion!

[George Stimson]

Why did the PMer say it was bad?
Here's another one. What's the diff?

[fabri-online]

Hi 5tefan
I 'm sorry but in my opinion disc is definitely fake.

[George Stimson]

Ooops, I forgot that you might want to see the front too.

[fabri-online]

George, our crosses have disc in tombak, his disc is in another alloy.
the visible difference is inside, details of rays don't match.

[wvdparis2]

IMO cross is a nice one but the disc is a Fake
(that's why I PMd Stefan about my thought...)

[5tefan]

Here is a complete picture of the inner side.
From which known fake is this disc?

[gregM]

I am curious as well. I have a 1914 cross (not Deumer) with a very
similar back plate made of 800 silver.

[ben bijker]

The only fake clamshell disc I know is used on Floch SB's.

Can you bend the disc easily?

[gregM]

Not easily bent at all.

[gregM]

obverse

[fabri-online]

Hello Greg
I don't know imperials well but I don't like your disc marked 800..

[ben bijker]

Hmmm....
Sorry Greg, but I'm with Fabri.
Not an imperial collector myself, but I don't like the cross either.
it reminds me of what we see from Latvia.
Mark, style, patina etc....
Are you sure it is authentic???

As for bending the disc, I was referring to the disc of Stefan's Deumer.
I know that most copies bend pretty easily, while the thin originals are very stiff and very hard to bend.

[5tefan]

Hmmm....
Sorry Greg, but I'm with Fabri.
Not an imperial collector myself, but I don't like the cross either.
it reminds me of what we see from Latvia.
Mark, style, patina etc....
Are you sure it is authentic???

As for bending the disc, I was referring to the disc of Stefan's Deumer.
I know that most copies bend pretty easily, while the thin originals are very stiff and very hard to bend.

The disc is not easy to bend, it's massive