IC 1st Class 1914 w/ Attached 1939 Spange Bar

[sunny59]

Hi Guys
This is a rare bird you don't find every month.
I haven't had one in hands yet so those of you who may have the experience your impression is very welcome.

I think they are available for around $1,500.00, right??
Rodolfo

[sunny59]

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Is this bird original?
If you ask me I only have some pictures on books and the one I found here.

[streptile]

I think your EK1 is probably made from an original 1914 EK2 of the 'CD' family, and the Spange is one of the high-end repros making the rounds these days (possibly made by Carsten Stagemeir). The soldering on the seams of the EK1 is bad, the '800' mark is not the one used by 'CD,' but the core and frame look ok. The L/13 stamp on the Spange is both bad, and misplaced on this type of Spange (in all likelihood). So: a recently-made combo with mostly bad parts, and 100% un-collectible. That is my feeling from the photos.

[kriztof]

Trevor is right, run away from this one...fast


Chris

[Dennis J]

I think your EK1 is probably made from an original 1914 EK2 of the 'CD' family, and the Spange is one of the high-end repros making the rounds these days (possibly made by Carsten Stagemeir). The soldering on the seams of the EK1 is bad, the '800' mark is not the one used by 'CD,' but the core and frame look ok. The L/13 stamp on the Spange is both bad, and misplaced on this type of Spange (in all likelihood). So: a recently-made combo with mostly bad parts, and 100% un-collectible. That is my feeling from the photos.

I have to agree the L/13 spang is a well known fake,take a good look at the 1939 date on well known orig.s and you will see the difference.I would not buy this cross.

Dennis J

[WEISNER]

Rodolfo, My first impression when I viewed this was WOW! That Bird is an ugly duck!!! The talons are terrible let along the rest of this squat looking spang!
These are rare to find and I suggest doing your homework before seriously looking to drop the asking price on one!
Do your homework and Happy Hunting!
Best Regards!
Kevin

[tinmantis]

this one shows up here from time to time
you'd think as they joined it pretty nicely(plate, moving the hook, lengthening pin etc)
they would have used a real spange!
I'm sure better ones with real components will follow...
regards
jon

[sunny59]

Like to thanks all of you for the learning experience.
We can conclude the following acording to:

Trevor
1] EK1 is probably made from an original 1914 EK2 of the 'CD' family
2] Spange is one of the high-end repros making the rounds these days (possibly made by Carsten Stagemeir).
3] The soldering on the seams of the EK1 is bad
4] The '800' mark is not the one used by 'CD,' but the core and frame look ok. 5] The L/13 stamp on the Spange is bad and misplaced on this type of Spange 6] recently-made combo with mostly bad parts, and 100% un-collectible.

Dennis
1] The L/13 spang is a well known fake,
2] Take a good look at the 1939 date on well known orig.s and you will see the difference.

Kevin
1] The talons are terrible, let along the rest of this squat looking spang!

Jon
1] I'm sure better ones with real components will follow...

[Flemming]

And I doubt that you can get a real one for 1500$.

/Flemming

[VtwinVince]

I have never seen a real one of these.

[sunny59]

Well, Im making my moves.
The beautiful thing about this is you never know when it may happen.

That's thr beauty of the hobby

[sunny59]

tHE MORE I LOOK AROUND THE MORE I GET SCARE

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