Calling All KVK II. Klasse Experts

[Stormfighter]

I just acquired a grouping, comprised of a Soldbuch, a promotion and an award document, two K.V.K. IIs (and an envelope for one), and a Reichssportsabzeichen. These items came directly from the family of an SS-Sturmbannfuehrer who was assigned to the Hauptamt SS-Gericht (Central SS Judicial Office) in Muenchen (Munich). The officer, SS-Sturmbannfuehrer Fritz Killing, received the K.V.K. II mit Schwerten on 30 January 1942.

I would like to know which of the two K.V.K. IIs belong in the envelope, which has the manufacturer's name printed on the reverse. It reads: Ph. Tuerks Wwe., Wien 107. Incidentally, neither of the K.V.K.s have any markings as far as I can see.

All opinions are welcome and thank in advance!

Regards,

Barry

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[Alex K.]

I would say the one on the top. Compare to this Set i got some time ago.

[hlynur76]

You might get better luck in "Crosses of the Wehrmacht" section. There we post KVK Crosses.

[samsung]

I agree with Alex. From what I know, Türks produced very massive KVK 2nd class with a width of 49 mm. Please measure your crosses.

And I have never seen a KVK marked with 102.


Thomas

[hlynur76]

You sould mesure your KVK´s. Like Thomas said

Here is one. Made out of Zinc and marked 107. Check out this Thread:
http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...d.php?t=433242

[George Stimson]

"107" is part of the maker's address in Vienna, not his PKZ number, yes?

[evilmike]

"107" is part of the maker's address in Vienna, not his PKZ number, yes?

yes its the address

[Stormfighter]

The cross at the top is indeed 49 mm and indeed has some weight to it, so it must be the one that belongs in the Türks envelope. The cross at the bottom is 47 mm. Thanks everyone!