EK2 1939 to the Legion Condor Blue Division

[Gabor Tischler]

Hi guys,

I would like to ask you, that what do you think for this cross, why it's a very ugly and nasty. I found this an auction site. Is this a real and original piece or a fantasy cross?

If this is an original cross, then maybe made in Spain and who was the manufacturer? And permission of Präsidialkanzlei of? Perhaps can you show me pictures of wearing?

Thanks in advance!

Best regards Gabor

[Gabor Tischler]

...and more pics....

[hkusp40]

Yikes! Nasty fake. -Ger

[Iam Al Bandy]

Hi

Excuse me, my english is bad

This type of EK2, are spanish´s EK2, for Blue Division members who lost his original EK2.... This awards were manufactured in the second half of the century XX in Spain....(1950-1970) ..... EK2 for old soldiers who lost their crosses.

[ciritione]

Spanish Produced

Like you can see in the follow link, it's an original spanish postwar ek2

http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/iron...roncross_2.htm

this is mine...

[Gabor Tischler]

thank you ciritione, I see already the difference between these crosses. Do you have a photo, as it version wear a Spanish soldier?

Best regards Gabor

[Flemming]

How does one see if such a cross is a "real" one or a copy.
As I se it, such a bad constructed cross must be easy to replicate?

/Flemming

[ciritione]

Do you have a photo, as it version wear a Spanish soldier?

Best regards Gabor

not, I haven't any picture

but if I don't remember bad... this is the last thread about this kind of badges

http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...d.php?t=429755

[Gabor Tischler]

not, I haven't any picture

but if I don't remember bad... this is the last thread about this kind of badges

http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...d.php?t=429755

Thank you Fernando.

Have a nice weekend!

Best regards Gabor

[Sal Williams]

legion condor and blue division are two different things

[Gabor Tischler]

legion condor and blue division are two different things

Hi Sal,

I understand this different between the Legion Condor and the Blue Division, but I don't understood, that awarded these ugly but rare EK1's, EK2's and KVK2's under the Third Reich and made these badges in Spain ( what you see the DAK Medals, but these DAK Medals are very nice badges ) or later awarded. Well, I see now, that these badges are postwar 50's or 60's pieces, but rare, what the Japanesse EK1. If I well understand the story.

Best regards Gabor

[Von.Burgdorf]

Two examples of two different dies and makers of my collection.
The first one is stamped in real silver,the unique sample known,all are stamped of silvered brass.

[Gabor Tischler]

Hi!

Thank you for these pictures.

Best regards Gabor

[Von.Burgdorf]

Like you can see in the follow link, it's an original spanish postwar ek2

http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/iron...roncross_2.htm

this is mine...

I am really sorry,ciritione,but your spanish made Iron Cross is a modern reproduction,die cast instead coined.The authentic crosses are made of two pieces welded,obverse and reverse.

[EK-collector]

Hi

Excuse me, my english is bad

This type of EK2, are spanish´s EK2, for Blue Division members who lost his original EK2.... This awards were manufactured in the second half of the century XX in Spain....(1950-1970) ..... EK2 for old soldiers who lost their crosses.

that is exactly correct many times written, still actual