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    Forensic proof!

    I really enjoy it when an item falls into your hands that in some way is able to proove what it was that caused an item to show the wear, or use, that it was actually intended for.

    I recently obtained this very nicely vaulted 1914 first class Iron Cross which was privately purchased and made of .935 silver (fairly soft). I noticed the unusual channel that was formed at the top of the pin right at the hinge and I began to think, "what could have caused this or was it simply made that way?". Well this is how I believe the channel was produced. The pin from the repitition clasp rubbed against the pin of the iron cross and formed a V shaped channel from constantly rubbing against it.

    Pretty cool isn't it?

    Chuck
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    Pin and groove
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      #3
      interesting, but I'm not sure on that clasp
      do you have more pics of it?
      regards
      jon

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        #4
        It would probably take constant opening and closing over 65+years to create that groove, in my opinion.....Is it not more likely that the groove was put there intentionally, so that the two would fit together more easily?
        I'd give my right arm to be ambidextrous.....

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          #5
          I would suggest posting the cross in Imperial where some really experienced EK guys (Mike, Micha, Carl, etc.) can opine. I'm just not sure about it.
          Best regards,
          Streptile

          Looking for ROUND BUTTON 1939 EK1 Spange cases (LDO or PKZ)

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            #6
            Hi Chuck, the needle is made like that from the start, does not have anything to do with the added spange. The cross is a very very nice C F Zimmermann with a blued core, they sometimes got needles like that. Have no feedback on the added spange but find most EKI/Spange combos very suspect.

            Pic is of a C F Z Prinzen, some nice C F Z's in this thread too but no pics of the needles.

            http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...d.php?t=438510
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            Last edited by Roglebk; 06-13-2010, 05:06 AM.

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              #7
              Chuck

              Unfortunately not the case. This type of EK1 has the notch already there. These are really nice crosses with a blued core as opposed to a painted core.

              Rich
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              Interested in hand-stitched EM/NCO LW insignia and cuff-titles
              Decorations of Germany

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                #8
                I would think that the pin of the Spange would be very difficult to manage with its tip overlapping the hinge of the EK, as per your theory.
                George

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                  #9
                  Thanks guys, I have been having terrible trouble with my PC lately and have to take it in. But, while it's working and I have a chance I wanted to thank you all.

                  Well, I THOUGHT I was on to something.

                  And yes, these crosses are really nice.

                  Thanks again for all the imput.

                  Regards,

                  Chuck

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