EK1 screwback opinions

[John Henderson]

Hi everyone, recently bought this from a reputable UK dealers website. I have read the wonderful article on Floch fakes, but must admit got a wee bit confused as to whether all ek1 or similar crosses or just Floch fakes of the clamshell variety are missing their anti rotational "spike". Hence my question. The frame itself is silver and shiny, where I read the Flochs are dull in colour. What do you think?

kind regards John

[John Henderson]

The reverse

[John Henderson]

The clamshell removed from the cross.

Thanks in advance for looking.

regards John

[fabri-online]

Hello
unfortunately date in your cross says clearly " I 'm fake.. "
this cross must come back to the seller.

[wvdparis2]

hi,
sorry it's a Floch

Michael

[TRAVLRSEASIA]

Ek1 sb

I have to concur with the others; this cross is a reproduction. This design is showing up on many a dealer's site this past year. I know of 4 dealers in the usa who have displayed this type of ek1...

[evilmike]

Floched, which dealer did you get it from, hope you can return it hassle free

[mametz]

Reputable Uk dealers they are rare birds, who was it?
Regards
Mametz

[Peter Wiking]

Hi John
Yes your cross is a fake known as a "Floch". It is obvius to me that the cross has been cleaned, but soap and water can not wash away hard evidence such as the low 1939 date and the special rib pattern close to the swastika. You should have your money returned. This cross was not manufactured before 8 of May 1945.

Peter

[John Henderson]

Thanks for all the help here, the dealer is Regimentals.
Now that you have all very kindly confirmed my suspicions, I will get in contact with them now. I really do appreciate the help.
kind regards John

[Joe Mc]

Thats bad, I always thought that Regimentals was a site to trust. Never thought I'd see any crap turn up off there. I hope is was a genuine mistake and you get a no fuss refund!

[Darrell]

Thats bad, I always thought that Regimentals was a site to trust. Never thought I'd see any crap turn up off there. I hope is was a genuine mistake and you get a no fuss refund!

I bet I've seen Floch items on almost all major dealers site at one point or another. It's not usually so much that they are there (everyone has let at least one slip in by mistake), it's what they do when notified of such a "mistake" that counts. If they raise a fuss or re-list upon return ... time to delete that link to dealers you buy from.

[Joe Mc]

I bet I've seen Floch items on almost all major dealers site at one point or another. It's not usually so much that they are there (everyone has let at least one slip in by mistake), it's what they do when notified of such a "mistake" that counts. If they raise a fuss or re-list upon return ... time to delete that link to dealers you buy from.

Very good points you raise there about what the dealers do with the item when you return it.

It's strage to see dealers with squeeky clean websites but then seeing the off loading rubbish at arms fairs. It's all about what they can get away with i suppose!

[TRAVLRSEASIA]

Sb ek1

THE WORST PART OF THIS STORY IS THE FACT THAT I SENT A NOTE TO REGIMENTALS THIS CROSS WAS A REPRODUCTION AS SOON AS I SAW IT POSTED UPON THEIR 26 DECEMBER UPDATE! THEY EVEN ACKNOWLEDGED MY COMMENTS BY THANKING ME FOR THE INFORMATION...GUESS THEY DIDN'T CARE....

[John Henderson]

THE WORST PART OF THIS STORY IS THE FACT THAT I SENT A NOTE TO REGIMENTALS THIS CROSS WAS A REPRODUCTION AS SOON AS I SAW IT POSTED UPON THEIR 26 DECEMBER UPDATE! THEY EVEN ACKNOWLEDGED MY COMMENTS BY THANKING ME FOR THE INFORMATION...GUESS THEY DIDN'T CARE....

Thanks for the input here. Very dissapointing to read your comment about the prior notification.
I think Darrell has hit this one on the head, could be a genuine mistake but its how they now react, since I have sent them a respectful email, pointing out this fake.
Its really good to have a community like this, where the collectors back each other up. Really appreciate it. I will post when I recieve an answer from the seller.

regards John