Early Klein & Quenzer EKII

[fabri-online]

Hello all
I know some examples of K&Q but I 'm not sure which is the early type, is someone so gentle to show me the cross and a close up of the core if necessary ? I 've got its bag and would like to add the right EKII.
Thank you.

[Robert P.]

Hello all
I know some examples of K&Q but I 'm not sure which is the early type, is someone so gentle to show me the cross and a close up of the core if necessary ? I 've got its bag and would like to add the right EKII.
Thank you.

I believe this cross is the early K&Q, the ring being unmarked. The beading and core details are very crisp. Nice black patina makes it a very attractive cross.

[Robert P.]

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[Douglas 5]

Nice Early 65 with 1st core !

Douglas

[George Stimson]

Are there maker-marked examples like Robert's?

[Robert P.]

Are there maker-marked examples like Robert's?

That's a good question, George. I'll take a look through all of my '65's when I return this afternoon.

[Douglas 5]

There is a possibility crosses from a well worn 1st frame die could have been marked 65 on the ribbon ring .

Douglas

[bobcam1]

"all my 65's"........I hate you.....

[redjames2004]

K&Q Iron Crosses

I liked K&Q made EK1s and EK2s so much!!!!!!! K&Q always made very excellent high-quality Iron Crosses. I owns two EK2s and silver wound badge that are made by K&Q. One EK2 is marked with #65 and another was unmarked. I am looking for a #65-marked EK1 to go with my two K&Q EKs. Thanks,James

[Douglas 5]

65 marked EK1s are out there James and qiut common .

Douglas

[fabri-online]

Thanks all for comments but a special thanks to Robert for these beautiful pics.
It is very easy to identify an early K&Q now

[streptile]

I agree with Robert that the core he shows, which I call Type 1 and can be recognized by the "overhung 3," is the earliest K&Q core. They can be found marked, but not nearly as frequently as the other core-types. Also, they seem to be chemically blackened rather than painted, which I think was an early practice.

Also agree with James -- K&Qs are some of the most beautiful EKs, especially the early ones.

This one came in a green case:

[Robert P.]

Of my ten K&Q EKII's I own, of which nine are marked, I find no other with the same core as the one I posted above. Of the five K&Q EKI's I own I find this core in only one of these crosses, an early unmarked cross.

[TobyR]

Bringing this back to the top, am I correct to think my cross is an early core, K&Q, EK2?

Sorry the photos aren't quite straight-on.

Thanks for looking.

Best,
Toby.

[TobyR]

Am I correct to think there are two styles of packet as well? One early and one late? The packet accompanying this cross is slightly more stylised than those I am used to for K&Q.