2 x unmarked EKII

[fabri-online]

Hello guys
I would like to have your opinion about these 2 crosses, I don't know these cores :

1st : NOT magnetic cross, Juncker I think, but I don't know this core.
P.S. property of Damiano S. , bought yesterday from an Italian seller.

you 'll see the 2nd later.

[fabri-online]

back side

[streptile]

I would say, yes: Juncker, based on the traditional frame.

[fabri-online]

front

[fabri-online]

I would say, yes: Juncker, based on the traditional frame.

Hi Trevor
thank you for your reply. So 100% Juncker ?

[streptile]

Hi Trevor
thank you for your reply. So 100% Juncker ?

Well, I don't feel confident enough to say 100%.

Can you tell me, does your core match this one? Also non-magnetic.

[fabri-online]

I think this core matches with your EKII.

[fabri-online]

Now I show my cross bought yesterday.
What do you think about this ?

[fabri-online]

back

[streptile]

I think this core matches with your EKII.

That is very big news, to me, to find this same core is a traditional Juncker frame. Thanks.

[fabri-online]

That is very big news, to me, to find this same core is a traditional Juncker frame. Thanks.

Hi Trevor,
all I can say is really seems to be the same core. Unfortunately I don't have the cross in my hands because it 's not mine but I have comparated the pics.
But I advice my friend.

No one has nothing to do about the second cross ?

[streptile]

I keep thinking about this second cross, but I don't know what to say about it.
The core, I think, is the same as the first you showed. Do you agree?

[Roglebk]

Fabrio, the first cross you show got the so called "true Juncker" frames and the allledged S&L Zink core. That core is #4 in the core chart Robert and Douglas worked out. It can be seen here: http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...9&postcount=52

In this thread: http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...d.php?t=388159

The cross Trevor shows got the same core as Fabrios first imo.

Fabrios 2nd cross shown is a alledged Juncker with the so called "Juncker RK numbers lookalike" core seen below. The 3 in 1939 looks like the 3 found on Juncker RK's. Had a magnetic EKII like that with a COA from DN stating it's a Juncker. Will explain more about that cross later.

[fabri-online]

Hi Carl,
thank you very much for your help. Unfortunately I 'm confused because Juncker used so many frames and cores...

[Roglebk]

Hi Carl,
thank you very much for your help. Unfortunately I 'm confused because Juncker used so many frames and cores...

I'm very confused about the whole "Juncker situation" too. They are not really worth their high price tag imo. Lots of other makers had crosses of equal quality.