DKiG with document to SS-Obersturmbannführer Lombard

[Cook]

Hello Dietrich.
I am not assured on 100 % about a wreath. Need better pictures , but I think it have altered 4 rivets Deschler on 6 rivets.
In pictures I have shown the original a hook of 6 rivets. On a discussed DK hook is on a rivet place. In the bottom part I see removal traces?
Ohh sorry - problem wiyh foto

[Cook]

Sorry, but problem with foto

[max history]

I would not be happy with the document. The Keitel signature does not look quite right.
Max.

[Simon O.]

Heisann Harald

I agree with Max on the document, another issue with it is the stamp which were always the same.

Compare with this one, the most obvious difference being the position of the right wingtip in relation to the lettering. I checked a few fake prelim
DKiG docs we've seen on here before, like Skorzeny's, and they show the same characteristics as the stamp on Lombard's doc.

[streptile]

...the most obvious difference being the position of the right wingtip in relation to the lettering...

Yes, excellent observation. So these stamps were all always identical?

[Simon O.]

I should be a bit careful about using such a word but having looked at dozens and dozens of prelim DKiG docs these OKH stamps without the 'heerespersonalamt' on the bottom are the same.

[RonE1964]

And what about the SS runes on this document? On OKH documents, I believe, we found normally no SS runes then they are coming from the SS-typewriters and I think on the OKH this typewriters are not used? But may be I am wrong and have anyone else a original document from the OKH with SS-runes?

Kind regards,

Ron.

[Simon O.]

For those interested, Detlev's update today included a grouping with DKiG prelim doc to SS-Stubaf. Georg Karck.