KVK2s w/o swords, your expertise please

[Mian_Tang]

Dear all, I would love to hear your opinions on these two KVK2s please. I recently purchased them from E-stand, but after a close inspection, I found them to be very suspicious, the crosses are in orange color with some bronze paint spots left on the bodies, the arms of the crosses are 1/2 thinner than the other KVKs I have in possession, weights of these two crosses are about 13.4 grams, which is lighter than a "normal" KVK2 w/o swords for 17.4 grams. Any inputs are welcome, and thank you in advance.

Front:



Side:


Thickness comparison with a "normal" KVK2(on the left):


Casting flaws:

[Mian_Tang]

Don't know why my threads are so hard on getting comments, nor have I done anything that so upset the community so nobody even bothers reading them?

Well, I just have keep bump it up until it gets responses.

[evilmike]

Does one of them have a marker mark on the ring, looks like there may be one in the photo, least then you could do a search and see if we turn out any similar crosses

[Stu W]

Don't know why my threads are so hard on getting comments, nor have I done anything that so upset the community so nobody even bothers reading them?

Well, I just have keep bump it up until it gets responses.

Patience Grasshopper...many of us have lives beyond the forum.

I agree with Mike that the cross on the right appears to have a ring mark. Lets get that checked. Can you also supply the width of each cross please. I've had some of the later made bronze washed zinc KVK that were both slimmer and less well formed than the early bronze types but their width remained the same at 49mm. Their measurements may tell us something.

Regards,
Stu

[Mian_Tang]

Thank you for the comments, the measurement of the crosses are 49mm from arms to arms, and one of them is maker marked 19, please do let me know if any other information are needed<script language="javascript" type="text/javascript">echoAudio("http://res.iciba.com/resource/amp3/d/f/df64854ca2f188c03d38fc4c2a7478ff.mp3");</script><object classid="clsid:d27cdb6e-ae6d-11cf-96b8-444553540000" codebase="http://download.macromedia.com/pub/shockwave/cabs/flash/swflash.cab#version=7,0,0,0" class="explain_symbol_spellimg" height="19" width="44">






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[evilmike]

Two links for mm19 kvk's have alook to see if the 19 stamp is the same as yours

http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...ghlight=kvk+19

http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...ghlight=kvk+19