Couple of new crosses

[HuD]

Hi everyone, just got a couple of new EK II class that i would like to share with you. I put together the pictures not open single threads for each ones.
The first cross is a nice "123", with a cool darkened frame (maybe the little silver % that i learned few days ago in oneother thread) and the second one, almost in the same uncleaned condition, is unmarked. I tryied to identify the maker and some of the details make me possibly think at Paul Meyhauer. Did i get it?
Many thanks,
Stefano

[HuD]

and the unmarked EK II

[fabri-online]

Hello Stefano,
I wold like to see the m.m. is it possible ?
The unmarked in my opinion was not manufactured by Meybauer but it 's a very very nice cross with dates with charateristics very special.

[Danny70]

Nice crosses!
I would say the unmarked cross is a 55.

Regards - Danny

[Robert P.]

Hello Stefano,
I wold like to see the m.m. is it possible ?
The unmarked in my opinion was not manufactured by Meybauer but it 's a very very nice cross with dates with charateristics very special.

Yes, the dates are very unique on this second cross. I don't have a cross in my collection to match. Perhaps someone else can provide you with a maker on this...

[Adrian]

Nice crosses!
I would say the unmarked cross is a 55.

Regards - Danny

Great additions Stefano, and I agree with Danny, the unmarked cross is a J.E. Hammer & Sohne - '55'.

[Robert P.]

You guys are correct, a '55'. I kept looking at the first '55' example I had in my collection which had the reverse date flawed. The second example I just pulled out has a good date on it. Very unique 1's in 1813.

[Adrian]

It's not the best but here is the reverse date on my '55' which matches Stefano's example.....

[Robert P.]

That's a good shot Adrian,

I like how the top of the '1' extends down to the middle of the '8'. Only one like this.

[HuD]

Sure fabri, here you have the maker mark on the ring of the first EK. Regarding the second cross i just realized the dimensions are a little smaller than usual (maybe 1 mm), just like another "55" that i have in my collection. Tonight i will try to make some pictures of the two crosses together. Thanks guys

[Robert P.]

This is my 2nd example with the good date. It looks like the top of the first '1' is starting to develope a flaw as well...

[HuD]

Hi Robert, the number 1 is really particular, unfortunately i don't have the cross with me at the moment... but later on i will do some better shots at the details.
Stefano

[Robert P.]

Stefano,

Your photos were more than adequate. I just lightened them up a bit for better viewing of the dates. You've a couple of very nice crosses. And, I really like the ring stamp of your '123'.

[HuD]

thanks Robert! so finally at home using the last daylight to make some pictures for a little comparison... I put together the unmarked 55 with another marked 55 that is slightly bigger in dimension. The design of the core numbers it's really the same but then i realised a lot of strange flaws all over the frame of the marked cross... is that ok?

[HuD]

an the other side as well