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    My EKII with ribbon question

    Hi all,
    I started my collecting earlier, before the benefit of joining this forum, so I'd like to post my first EKII for comments, particularly with a question about the ribbon.
    To my (untrained) eye it's an unmarked, seemingly good condition, no frosting, 3-piece construction, magnetic-attracting core EKII. The ribbon however feels awfully smooth and the fibres of the warp part easily with a pin to expose the black fibres of the weft. The only other ribbon I can compare to in my limited experience is that on my KVKII which feels stiffer, so I don't know what a genuine ribbon should feel like.
    Comments?
    Thanks.
    ---Norm
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    Reverse

    reverse
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      #3
      closeup

      closeup
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        #4
        edge

        edge
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          #5
          ribbon

          ribbon - note the texture of the frayed edges?
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            closeup of ribbon

            Note how the pinhole has made a "black" hole by revealing the black weft -- it does this awfully easily...
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              The weave looks correct . Have you done a Black light test ??
              I have only started on ribbons and can say that one finds a variation of thicknesses and colors variations . It seams earlier ribbons were thinner and 'cool-silky' fealing to the touch . They had no support- loose weave- and would not stand up on there own . The internal color band vary in width as well ... maker to maker .

              Douglas

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                ribbon

                Originally posted by Douglas 5 View Post
                The weave looks correct . Have you done a Black light test ??
                I have only started on ribbons and can say that one finds a variation of thicknesses and colors variations . It seams earlier ribbons were thinner and 'cool-silky' fealing to the touch . They had no support- loose weave- and would not stand up on there own . The internal color band vary in width as well ... maker to maker .

                Douglas
                Interesting! This ribbon is exactly as you describe -- silky feeling and loose weave. Sadly I don't have a black light -- must look into that. I also fear I've created sacrilege by hanging it with a pin -- didn't realize it would make such a permanent mark in the ribbon. Not sure how best to display this vertically.
                ---Norm

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                  #9
                  Black light test ; ribbons and something that you know that will glow .
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                    A display comparison showing the variations amongst the red ribbons .
                    Looking closely one can just make out the fine and coarse weave ribbons as well .

                    Douglas
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                      #11
                      No problems with the cross or ribbon IMO, both are original.

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                        #12
                        For me it look's like steinhauer and luck but i'm not sure.

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                          Since it has been suggested that my unmarked cross starting this thread is a Steinhauer and Lück, I recently acquired on the e-stand a marked "4" Steinhauer and Lück for comparison.
                          Here is my new marked "4".
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                            Here follow few side-by-side comparisons:
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                              another comparison

                              and another:
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