Ebay EK2 sells for how much!!??!!

[evilmike]

Time to list those crosses on ebay chaps...

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/MINT-1939-Iron...3286.m63.l1177

[Matthieu]

I knew I sold mine too cheap ....

[Allan P.]

Thought ebay had baned WW11 EK from being sold?

Allan

[Nigel N]

£200, somebody must have more money than sense, i'd want 3 for that price!! p.s. theres one on now with rare orange ribbon, that should go for about £350 then -Nigel

[dmytro]

£200, somebody must have more money than sense, i'd want 3 for that price!! p.s. theres one on now with rare orange ribbon, that should go for about £350 then -Nigel

I would agree, and this may start a bit of controversey, but EKII (1939) are in reality 10 a penny, I would not pay more than £80GBP, if that for any, except maybe a certified cased one in mint condition or with real provenance, EK 1914, half that, as some 5million were awarded. and whilst they appear to be the doyen of most collectors and worshipped, they are by no means rare. it's a bit like the RK des EK, desirability (and dealers) are the driving forces, not rarity. Most of my EKII's were obtained for less than £10GBP

ready for the flak!

Alex K

[mess079]

Wow! 200 £??? It's really a scientific question about those differences between prices in, for example, US, UK and East Europe. The cheapest EK II I've seen was 50 £ (unmarked), few days ago someone sold his schinckelform EK for 170 £. Is that a fair price? And...how da hell get to Your Association??

[Adrian]

Thought ebay had baned WW11 EK from being sold?

Allan

If that was the case Allan, I can see them lifting the ban now with pound signs revolving in their eybballs!

[evilmike]

the odd one escapes and runs the length, ebay must have been too busy removing all my xbox 360 games as i listed them 'as new' which is not acceptable, mint is acceptable, probably stone mint and gta 4 'fresh out of the woodwork' aswell.


£40-£65 is my usual, local dealer is now up to £85 a ek2 wonder why he isnt shifting them

[FestungSpanien]

somebody gotta be crazy...

[MaxxBrunn1938]

I love the Guys comments, I am unable to take this back or give a refund..

"It's a Floch for sure!!"

[dmytro]

somebody gotta be crazy...

Hi Thought long an hard before adding this reply, but in my minds eye, it clarifies the situation from my point of view, having collected off and on for many, many years, in the early days, (1960's/1970's, and even the 1980's, the rot really set in at the spread of Internet sales houses, before that prices really were stable.

any comments appreciated

regards

Alex

"Unfortunately, this hobby has many thousands of people who genuinely wish to collect pieces of historical military memorabilia (as evidenced by this many and numerous other forums), IMHO is being ruined/destroyed by three main types of people, and here I comment as a now ex-collector (With an existing but non growing collection) but still avid reader and follower.

The three catagories I personally identify are

1, The idiot
2, The dealer
3, The faker.

To explain

1, The idiot,

This is someone who sees, for example, a EKII on numerous Internet Sales Rooms described as a “Very Rare version”….. and outbids the original asking price without any research whatsoever, the asking price generally tends towards the stupid end of the scale, with the final price spiralling totally out of control.

2, The dealer,

Who sees what the idiot in #1# has paid for the piece of garbage and therefore adjusts his price to suit so as to maximise his profit based on the price paid for similar items by idiot#1#, with possibly yet more spurious descriptions of it’s desirability (and therefore value).

3) The faker,

Who sits on sites such as this, looks at what idiot #1#, has just paid for a piece, what dealer #2# is now therefore asking for similar pieces, and then decides if that’s what these things are now going for, I have the technical ability to produce hundreds of them as I am financially on a no looser, with idiot #1# around, who has not spent the time researching anything but is blinded by the “Bling” he sees on internet sales rooms, similarly, Dealer #2# can now adjust prices as a precedent has been set by idiot#1#,

it’s the snowball down the hill effect.

Alex K"

[hlynur76]

wow.. 276 $ and all this bids

[Mike Yokum]

A bit of a broad brush there Alex. Cutting and unfortunately largely accurate though, one has to admit.

[dmytro]

A bit of a broad brush there Alex. Cutting and unfortunately largely accurate though, one has to admit.

I really and genuinley feel for the new guys who want to collect military memorabilia, be it Tr, imperial or now even british medals, and spend huge amounts of money on something that in the end isn't worth it or at worse is a complete fake, they being of the "Younger generation" fall for the usual pitfalls where they have no "History" of such collectibles and believe everything they see. As an old collector from the 1960's/1970's, fakes were more easily identifeid with a little bit of research, (Lead castings etc etc)

The point I was trying to make that most people nowadays don''t even bother to try and read up about such things, and there are many good publications about them, where a bit of time spent reading or even being members of such sites as this such as this, would show them that they are wasting their money.

That's why I treid to Identify, in my opinion the three steps why someone would pay $350USD for something which in the end may be worth less than a quarter of that.

As I said, it's the snowball effect, it eventaully rolls and rolls until it becomes out of control, it will eventually hit an immovable object which will shatter it.

Many may well find their precious asset, when the bubble brsts isn't that precious afterall. Sorry if this sounds controversial

regards

Alex

[Steinar]

£200 for something that looks like a 100 w&L EK2 jeeeeez stupid stupid stupid.