Souval frame ?

[hlynur76]

Hey.

I got curious today after I saw EK1 for sale from the famous one in Hamburg.

I´m not going to post up pict. But I guess most of you have access to his webside

New Items -> Page 4 -> Art.: #03079 - Iron Cross 1st class 1939

Please correct me if I´m wrong,, isn´t it Souval frame ?

[Adrian]

Yes it is.

[hlynur76]

And is sold as orginal

[Adrian]

Can you share your thoughts on it please as I may be missing something....

[Stu W]

Can you share your thoughts on it please as I may be missing something....

I too am curious as to your concerns.

Regards,
Stu

[hlynur76]

Can you share your thoughts on it please as I may be missing something....

If you read the "Souval Frame Article" It says that R. Souval made reproductions of third reich awards back in 60´s and 70´s, Including EK1.

I just thought that deler in Hamburg sold "Orginal military medals".. I guess I was wrong

[Stu W]

Hello again,

Souval continued to make EK after the war. He also made thousands during the war. You may benefit from reading more on Souval EK.

Regards,
Stu

[Adrian]

He did make medals during the 60's and 70's but also before May 1945. As far as I can see this EK1 is an original example of a wartime manufactured cross, if someone can tell me if I'm not seeing it correctly please let me know.

[Leroy]

He did make medals during the 60's and 70's but also before May 1945. As far as I can see this EK1 is an original example of a wartime manufactured cross, if someone can tell me if I'm not seeing it correctly please let me know.

You ARE seeing it correctly. Many people tend to forget that Souval was a legitimate wartime manufacturer with its own LDO number.

[hlynur76]

Thx for these replys guys. I just didn´t know that R.S. made EK pre 45.

Guess I have lot to learn

[Stu W]

We are all learning...

You are not alone. We are all learning so don't feel bad.

Regards,
Stu

[WEISNER]

You are not alone. We are all learning so don't feel bad.

Regards,
Stu

Stu has tought me some of the fine points of the wartime Souval crosses, and at one time had a very fine collection of examples by this maker!
He hits the Nail on the head hard with His statement, "We are all learning"

This makers crosses stand out when compared side by side with other makers! They have some fine qualities! Just re read the fine article here, and learn to tell the difference between wartime and post war Souval offerings!
This makers crosses can be often found at great prices!
Kevin

[jt327gir]

You are not alone. We are all learning so don't feel bad.

Regards,
Stu

Even the most advanced collectors among us are still learning things (I've got a long way to go to get to advanced!).

[Adrian]

Guess I have lot to learn

So have all of us!
Don't be afraid to ask a question, no matter how daft you might think it is, someone will always give you an answer.

[reichenberg]

Am I correct in saying that Souval was a Swiss manufacturer working in Germany during the Third Reich period, and that his early post war awards were never intended to deceive anyone, for example, his RKs being clearly marked on the front of the frame , and DKs and wound badges with the 'cut out' C clip - features never found on TR awards. It's only later that his items become confused with original WWII items?