Ekii.

[Ivo Wilms]

Hello,

I would like some opinions on this one. To me it looks like a very nice original. But since I got it quite cheap, I am having some doubts.
It has no mm and apart from a little dust it is practically mint. It comes from a Dutch non-collector which has bought it a long time ago in Germany, so he says...
Opinions are greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance.

[Robert P.]

This looks like a cross I have that another member thinks might be an unmarked C. Zimmermann EKII. The dates look identical. Can you please post a straight-on and clear photo of the beading around the swasi for positive ID? I'm very interested that one more like mine popped up. As of yet a marked '20' has 'never' been found, yet the member states that it's characteristics match it's maker's KC.

[Douglas 5]

Interesting one ; been looking at it , but not sure . The 3 in the date 1939 seams to have a little 'bridge' at the top and bottom connecting it to the 9 in front ,which reminded me of a 65 ? Early die strike in very nice condition .
A closeup streight on picture would help as Robert mentioned .

Douglas

[Robert P.]

Here's my cross...

[Robert P.]

rev

[Ivo Wilms]

Hello,

Thanks for your replies. Much appreciated.
I hope this is alright:

[Steinar]

Really a nice cross, the date is zimmermann ish

[Douglas 5]

Here is some thing Robert ---- that will help identify the frame being the same as yours or not - a nice bead flaw is reconaisable in this one important side picture ----see if yours has it or not .

Douglas

[Robert P.]

Exactly the same flaw in the beading, Douglas. They're a perfect match. This is the only other cross I have seen like this in years. Could this be a true Zimmermann EKII, is the question?

[Robert P.]

Here's my old thread on the cross....

http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...ght=Zimmermann

[Robert P.]

And, here is the flaw on my beading...

[Ivo Wilms]

Thanks for the link. They sure look similar!
Here's the close-up of the "1939", as requested:

[Roglebk]

Robert & Douglas

As always i move my head in a deep downward motion in respect for you ICFP's

(Iron Cross Forensics Professors)

I'll ask Barry at E-Medals if there was any EKII's found in the burned Zimmermann lot and if he got any pics of them.

[Robert P.]

Yes, it would be interesting to see what Barry could come up with on this. Thank you.

Here are the two crosses again, their 1939 dates, which look very good...