S&L KVK1 w/o swords, marked "4"

[Thomas Durante]

I am looking at purchasing a S&L KVK 1 w/o swords, marked "4" on the outside of the pin. The catch is seperately attached flat wire formed into a "c" and the hinge separately attached as well. It is pretty well accepted that a S&L KVK1 w/swords marked "4" has what looks like an integral hinge and catch. Is it pretty well accepted that the KVK1 w/o swords has such a different pin and catch setup from the KVK1 with swords of the same maker? I have searched the forum and cannot find a KVK1 w/o swords with an integral hinge and catch, so I assume that the pin setup on the one in question is accepted. First of all, does anyone have a KVK1 w/o swords with an integral hinge and catch and second, what are some other opinions?

Thanks in advance

Tom D.

[George Stimson]

"Is it pretty well accepted that the KVK1 w/o swords has such a different pin and catch setup from the KVK1 with swords of the same maker?"

Yes.

[TerryG]

4 KVK1 w/o swords

Hi there Tom,
If you refer to the one on the Estand, I think, I hope, that I have beaten you to it. Looks good to me from the photo publshed and I assume that your very short comment George was a ??

[Thomas Durante]

Hi guys, thanks for the replies. Terry, the one I am looking at is not on the e-stand, but it looks exactly like mine as far as I can tell from those pics. George, thank you for confirming what my research has told me. I will get the cross in my hand and check it out. Are there any die faults or characteristics you look for on a "4" KVK1 w/o swords other than those I mentioned above?

Thanks

Tom D.

[George Stimson]

Tom,

I would imagine that the stippling on the arms of the one you are looking at should match the stippling on this one.

[Thomas Durante]

Thanks for the post George. I will compare it to yours and a few others I have been sent when I get it in my hands next week.

Thanks again for everyone's posts.

Tom D.