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    #31
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    Last edited by ben bijker; 04-24-2009, 12:33 PM.

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      #32
      Hi Ben thanks for the reply, I have to say that I am not defending the L57 in fact I hope it turns out to be a fake otherwise I returned a bargin original. Have to say at the time the position of the mm did not concern me, everyonce in a while an original with a misplaced mm as you imply does occur. Might search through my own files on these. All the best

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        #33
        Hi guys think I may have found the thread is this the same?
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          #34
          Sorry I cant download the thread it wont let me, here,s another this time it marked L21 on the reverse.
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            #35
            The reverse, god this forum speed is ssooooooooooo sssslllllloooooowwwww
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              #36
              Don't worry Mrg, you saved your self under £100, all those intermediate clasps with veins are fakes , IMO......

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                #37
                wow, how sloooooow is this forum?

                well, I've racked my brains, search my files, and even woke up in the night thinking about this spange! this thread has cleared up a few of my grey area files too, thanks

                There seems to be a few degrees of reproductions of this 'intermediate' style: L/58, L/57, L/52 and L/21

                and I finally agree with you all!
                The only good ones in this thread (IMO) are Alikn's and the 2 others I showed

                I now believe the Detlev spange is repro! I think it's been well tried, and should be burnt at the stake

                I think the fakers did a good job here, trying to match the more bizarre hardware, but going a tad OTT. It would be nice to see much better pics of it though, and I'd love to have it in hand. I had previously believed there were viened and non-viened authentic versions, seems like all the viened examples I can find are repro, which is an easy initial red flag now. Also seems like Detlev believes in this version too, as he's had it twice for sale even after it was returned as fake!

                I'm gonna edit my first post now
                forums rule (thanks Ben, Alikn, mrg etc for squeezing my brain)
                regards
                jon
                Last edited by tinmantis; 01-11-2009, 03:20 PM.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Alikn View Post
                  Don't worry Mrg, you saved your self under £100, all those intermediate clasps with veins are fakes , IMO......

                  Well Im pleased about that, Have to say these are really good copies and I went over and over it with my glass and the only thing that concerned me was the silvery finish which i put down too a possible re-finish. Have to say I Dont feel too bad now, after all if it fooled Detlev what chance did i have . All the best, very interesting thread.

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                    #39
                    Hi Jon last one for your files, this one showing a close up of the fake mm and in the same place as the one I had, this time marked L52. All the best
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                      #40
                      interesting choice...
                      here's a real one too:
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                        Last edited by ben bijker; 04-24-2009, 12:34 PM.

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                          #42
                          haha
                          took me a while eh?
                          I was sure that certain viened intermediates had a chance! it's not until something like this comes up, that you get a real opportunity to reasses

                          but yes that L/18 is A-OK

                          so Ben, now what about your L/12 SB? any new thoughts?
                          regards
                          jon

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                            #43
                            Originally posted by tinmantis View Post

                            and I finally agree with you all!
                            The only good ones in this thread (IMO) are Alikn's and the 2 others I showed

                            I now believe the Detlev spange is repro! I think it's been well tried, and should be burnt at the stake

                            regards
                            jon
                            I'm also agree jon... "The only good ones in this thread (IMO) are Alikn's and the 2 others I showed"

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                              Last edited by ben bijker; 04-24-2009, 12:34 PM.

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