RK guide for idiots

[jacquesf]

I have just stumbled across this RK. I have no knowledge of these, but would like to add one to my collection.Based on some research, I think this one is a so called rounder, but what do I know. Please assist. I apologise for the quality of the pics, they were done in a hurry. Jacques

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Front

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Corners

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marking

[DavidM]

Hello

In my opinion this isn't a genuine war time produced RK. It certainly looks like the 'Rounder' fake, although I believe that there is another fake on the market which looks similar to the 'Rounder' but isn't actually a 'Rounder', and I suspect that this is one of these newer fakes.

Regards
David

[Nico C]

[grueni1208]

Number design look's like Floch.

Regards

Daniel

[Leroy]

This looks like the "old" Rounder to me (the inner corners on the "new" Rounder are much closer together), but Dietrich would know for sure.

[Dietrich Maerz]

It is the original "Rounder" and it was not made by Floch but rather "Made in Germany" - just about 30 years to late.

[Leroy]

Just a thought. Many of the "old-time" fakers we know (including Floch) spent a lot of time seeking out old suppliers and small firms who were original manufacturers during the war. I wonder if the original Rounder owed it "genesis" to a set of dies created during the war by a small company, but not used (or used very little) and then acquired and put back into use in the late '60's or early '70's?

[Dietrich Maerz]

No!

[Leroy]

Ahh! Do you know the "real" genesis?

[Steinar]

that date looks like crap

[jacquesf]

Thank you for the useful information. Jacques