DKiG ... opinions please

[Robert P.]

The two things that stand out to me the most on the Klein copy posted are the poor attempt at making the die flaw, and the date. I think if the reverse was not artificially darkened the pin would look more inviting. The rivets, if not for the fact that we are comparing them to the badge that we believe to be original, would look fine standing alone. I'm of the opinion that the opening cross is original, but it's good to be 100% certain, in my way of thinking, before sending someone off to purchase something in the 2K+ category.

[Ojoneso]

As I said numerous times - they will not. Why? Because you don't need to have that flaw to fool 60% of all the greedy E-bay collectors.

But what would be the alternative anyway? Should I make my next book just one page with the imprint:

"I don't want to show anything because the fakers will learn. It is better you all stay stupid! Thanks for buying the book!"

Dietrich

Dietrich, it was a Joke

[pep]

first want to thank all people who post in this thread !!!!!!!!!

ROBERT .. I think I got the close-up to check the flaw.
let me know your opinion.

two questions ....
this flaw is just for 134 maker or extensive to other makers?????
between heavier and lighter models, present both in good condition, do they have high pricing difference???

[Robert P.]

Yes, it looks like it's there. Zimmermann '20' supplied Klein with rays and wreaths, so you'll see the same flaw on the Zimmermann and the same date pattern.

[pep]

thanks robert
VALUABLE information and HELP provided.
...
now I'm ready to buy. I have 2 choices
134 made - 4 rivets - light version
20 made - 4 rivets - heavy version

very close similar prices and condition

which do you recommend to buy, for weight and maker rarity????

[Robert P.]

That's a tough decision. I have the light 20 and the Klein. I'd give up my light 20 for the heavy. You've got a tough decision to make. I think I'd go for the heavy because the 134's aren't as hard to find.

[pep]

I think the same. heavier version better.
the only matter with this 20 is some decoloration on the disc under swastika ....

[Robert P.]

Maybe cleaned, huh? Hard to say without being inhand.

[pep]

anyway, thanks robert.
you've been very helpful