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    #1

    S&l ??

    These are currently being sold as coming from a S&L salesboard.

    http://www.emedals.ca/catalog.asp?newitems

    There's a well-known photo of Hasso von Manteuffel wearing a set of elongated swords like these.

    I wonder why these would have been made so different from the standard type ??
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    I wondered where they went, quite a few of these "saleboards" were on auction a couple of months back. Myself and a friend bid on all of the lots and didn't win a thing. A lot of the awards were S&L but not all.

    Sorry to hijack your thread Robin

    I've owned a pair of Swords exactly like the ones you show..
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      #3
      Mine were also attached to a Type A S&L RK.
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        #4
        I photographed all of the boards...

        Here is the RK board..
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          #5
          Originally posted by Dave-B View Post
          I photgraphed all of the boards...

          Here is the RK board..
          I suppose this begs the question. When did S&L put this "saleboard" together?

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            #6
            The standard postcard of a bareheaded Walter Oesau in flying
            jacket shows his elongated swords clearly.This would date from
            about early ,41.
            Seiler.(Yank in UK)

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              Originally posted by Darrell View Post
              I suppose this begs the question. When did S&L put this "saleboard" together?
              That's what I was wondering.

              There are items on these boards from 1944, by which time sale of the OL&S was forbidden.

              So why have them on a 'saleboard'?

              Wasn't there some story that these boards were put together after the war as souvenirs for GIs?

              Still................the von Manteuffel photo shows that these elongated swords were definitely worn during the war............and by a ranking General at that.

              They shouldn't have been issued officially, so he must have bought them, presumably. When sale of them was forbidden.

              Very odd.

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                #8
                Originally posted by Darrell View Post
                I suppose this begs the question. When did S&L put this "saleboard" together?
                Exactly!

                The story I was told was that all of the boards were collected at the end of the war by a British Intelligence officer and that the boards were made up by S&L for souvenir hunters.

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                  #9
                  The whole idea of a "surviving" Salesboard sends alarm bells off in my mind. Especially one with 3 RK's and 2 DKs. The Capitalistic instincts of any mortal would have these taken off and sold them separately eons ago ...

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                    #10
                    I believe there is a photo in one of the War Booty books showing a British serviceman with some TR awards pinned to his tunic with one award being an RK with a pair of these elongated Swords attached...anyone got this book?

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                      Originally posted by Darrell View Post
                      The whole idea of a "surviving" Salesboard sends alarm bells off in my mind. Especially one with 3 RK's and 2 DKs. The Capitalistic instincts of any mortal would have these taken off and sold them separately eons ago ...

                      Well apparently the boards were in the possession of the officer till earlier this year (so I was told).

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                        Originally posted by Dave-B View Post
                        I believe there is a photo in one of the War Booty books showing a British serviceman with some TR awards pinned to his tunic with one award being an RK with a pair of these elongated Swords attached...anyone got this book?
                        Yes................you're right. The serviceman is decorated up like a Christmas Tree with RKs, KVKs, DKs etc. galore. It's an IWM picture. Shows these elongated swords.

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                          One of the early Johnson daggers books has this photo.
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Darrell View Post
                            The Capitalistic instincts of any mortal would have these taken off and sold them separately.
                            That's just what the dealers have done!

                            Compare this with the picture Dave posted above.
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Robin Lumsden View Post
                              That's just what the dealers have done!

                              Compare this with the picture Dave posted above.
                              Any ideas why "authentic" RK w/Oaks = $13k and "authentic" RK w/ Oaks and Swords = $19k?

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