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    #16
    damaged badges are nice. I have an EK2 with some nice bent arms, nothing major.. Love that cross. Perhaps it's post war, perhaps not. I don't care. it just shows that its been around...and it looks cool.

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      #17
      Originally posted by Steinar View Post
      damaged badges are nice. I have an EK2 with some nice bent arms, nothing major.. Love that cross. Perhaps it's post war, perhaps not. I don't care. it just shows that its been around...and it looks cool.
      Steinar

      In that case You should love this
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        #18
        Nice cross badge5050 however, rust is not quite my thing, I try to stay away from the rust because its not easy to fix, and maybe, just maybe it can spread to other awards as well.. i hate taking any chances..

        Actually i prefer mint, but i LOVE heavy patina / the been there look...damaged etc...but not damaged like 1 of the EK arms gone, ripped off lol or just some twisted metal of an old crunched cross

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          #19
          Originally posted by Steinar View Post
          Nice cross badge5050 however, rust is not quite my thing, I try to stay away from the rust because its not easy to fix, and maybe, just maybe it can spread to other awards as well.. i hate taking any chances..
          Okay, - that EK2 is not in my collection, it was just a “buy in thing”. None of mine have rust. <O</O
          <O</O

          Anyway I was just kinda pulling your leg... <O</O
          <O</O

          This one is in my collection though... <O</O
          <O</O
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            #20
            And front
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              #21
              Have you ever noticed that on many EKII's there's more rust on the obverse than on the reverse, or even no rust whatsoever on the reverse while the obverse is rusted? This is just a thought as to why this is so. Imagine being a soldier in the field who has just received an EKII. He'd hold it in his right hand, obverse side up, admiring it. When he stuffed it into his tunic or shirt pocket under his tunic, it would go into the pocket with the obverse side facing his warm humid body. The reverse side would be facing outward with plenty of ventilation.

              Take a look at this '27' variant, and what you don't see is a reverse free from rust. How else could you explain the one-sided rust problem?

              Robert
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                #22
                You might be on to something there Robert
                This also just gave me an idea as well, what if the front side is more rusted because its most likely been stored/placed...with the swastika facing the air, the light etc, and the 1813 side facing the table, or wherever, facing nothing but darkness and probably less air compared to the other side... just an idea... if you know what i mean..

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                  #23
                  Originally posted by Steinar View Post
                  You might be on to something there Robert
                  This also just gave me an idea as well, what if the front side is more rusted because its most likely been stored/placed...with the swastika facing the air, the light etc, and the 1813 side facing the table, or wherever, facing nothing but darkness and probably less air compared to the other side... just an idea... if you know what i mean..
                  I see what you mean, Steinar. Sounds reasonable. I suppose we'll never really know all things. It's always nice to get a packeted set in outstanding condition from a vet's family, something tucked away out of everyday reach.

                  Robert

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                    #24
                    Oh yes

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                      #25
                      The same goes fore mint like crosses ... the frosting on the back side is always a bit better than the front . All do to moisture and UV light . ... not to forget that a large amount of crosses were coated and this lacquer coating exposed to UV light is chemicaly breaking down and reacting with the polished silver on the frame anywhere as light darkening spotting all the way to total blackish frame . As a coin collector I had a EK1 and 2 sealed up air tight in chemical free coin bags in a dark place for 30 years . After re-opening the box and bags they were exactly the same as the first day I got them . It is all to do with light and moisture !
                      Douglas

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                        #26
                        Originally posted by Douglas 5 View Post
                        The same goes fore mint like crosses ... the frosting on the back side is always a bit better than the front . All do to moisture and UV light . ... not to forget that a large amount of crosses were coated and this lacquer coating exposed to UV light is chemicaly breaking down and reacting with the polished silver on the frame anywhere as light darkening spotting all the way to total blackish frame . As a coin collector I had a EK1 and 2 sealed up air tight in chemical free coin bags in a dark place for 30 years . After re-opening the box and bags they were exactly the same as the first day I got them . It is all to do with light and moisture !
                        Douglas
                        Great lesson for all of us to learn by, Douglas. Keeping crosses totally mint is a chore, especially if you live near the coastal regions.

                        Robert

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                          #27
                          A worn piece has it's deserved luster too !
                          One owner early Parade Mount full Juncker EK2 ... used -wear - aging/darkening = true activ history !
                          An example that should be in a collection !

                          Douglas
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