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    Did '92' Josef Rucker stamp his EKII?

    Wondering if Rucker ever stamped ('92') his EKII's, or left them unstamped as '86', etc....

    Robert

    #2
    Never had one, and I never saw one.
    It would be the first to me!

    I do however have 2 mm92's in my files that are sold by a German dealer that is known to sell the marks like for example mm2's, mm5's, mm8's.

    Why Robert, do you have one?

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      #3
      Originally posted by LuckyLuudje View Post
      Never had one, and I never saw one.
      It would be the first to me!

      I agree!

      Regards

      Daniel
      Regards
      Daniel


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        #4
        No, I don't have one, but have been offered one. From what I can tell of the cross it looks/resembles a '93'. I'm still researching it. The stamp is a double stamp, and is hard to discern. Daniel, your name was mentioned, and that you believed there are no marked Josef Rucker's. I don't doubt your word, no sir, just running this through hoping to find more on it. I have found nothing in our archives to support a marked '92'.

        Robert

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          #5
          Do either of you gentlemen have a photo of an original unmarked '92' ?

          Robert

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            #6
            Hi Robert,
            I've never heard of let alone seen a '92', marked or otherwise. It would be interesting to see some pics of the example you've been offered, can you post any?

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              #7
              Originally posted by Adrian View Post
              Hi Robert,
              I've never heard of let alone seen a '92', marked or otherwise. It would be interesting to see some pics of the example you've been offered, can you post any?
              That's what I was asking, Adrian. Perhaps someone has a packeted set? Please post.

              Robert

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                #8
                I believe a good feature for the existence of EK II's by one maker are the existence of EK II packets.

                I never saw an EK II packet by this maker.

                I got pic's from an EK II with an unsharp/unclear maker's mark.
                The EK II is in standard design like S&L.

                Regards

                Daniel
                Regards
                Daniel


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                Otto Schickle
                All early 57er pieces

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                  #9
                  Thanks Daniel,

                  No packets, that's a problem. Josef Rucker & Sohne is on the official EKII list, but I don't know how we are ever going to be able to find one of his crosses if they're all unmarked and no packets in existance.

                  Robert

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by robert pierce View Post
                    Josef Rucker & Sohne is on the official EKII list
                    Who say that these list is 100% correct?

                    I started a thread in our german forum about the maker marked EK II's.
                    At the moment that's the result:

                    * = EK II packet's or EK II LDO cases known
                    00* = only packet's or LDO cases known


                    Präsidialkanzlei

                    1*
                    3*
                    4*
                    6.*
                    7*
                    11*
                    12*
                    13*
                    14*
                    15*
                    16*
                    19*
                    21*
                    23*
                    24* WR (extra mark)
                    24* [] (extra mark)
                    24* + (extra mark)
                    24* o (extra mark)
                    25*
                    27*
                    28*
                    40*
                    44*
                    52*
                    55*
                    56
                    57*
                    60*
                    65*
                    66.*
                    75
                    76*
                    86*
                    93*
                    98*
                    100*
                    103
                    106*
                    109*
                    113*
                    120*
                    122
                    123*
                    125
                    127*
                    128
                    132*
                    136
                    137
                    138*


                    Leistungsgemeinschaft Deutscher Ordenshersteller (LDO)

                    L/11*
                    L/12*
                    L/13*
                    L/15*
                    L/16*
                    L/18*
                    L/51* no maker marked versions
                    L/54*
                    L/55*
                    L/56*
                    L/58* no maker marked versions
                    L/59* no maker marked versions


                    unknown maker, but EK II packets known

                    Carl Forster & Graf, Schwäbisch Gmünd
                    Gottlieb Roll & Söhne, Oberstein a. Nahe
                    Louis Gottlieb & Söhne, Idar-Oberstein
                    Franz Breuning, Pforzheim
                    Paul Küst, Orden- und Abzeichenfabrik, Berlin (only a licence for decorations)
                    Wilhelm Hammesfahr, Solingen


                    Regards

                    Daniel
                    Last edited by grueni1208; 09-28-2008, 05:20 AM.
                    Regards
                    Daniel


                    Search:
                    !!! all awards with [L/15] mark !!!
                    Otto Schickle
                    All early 57er pieces

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                      #11
                      Thank you Daniel!

                      This is VERY helpful.

                      Robert

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