RK/EK Minis

[colin davie]

Dietrich as you can't see for yourself it sold for E500.
C

[Peter J.]

That's an expensive EK mini This is my personal opinion and I know it will be challenged, but I would like to know what qualifies this as a RK-mini. If it indeed is intended as a RK, shouldn't it be attached to a silver coloured button, rather than one in bronze? And what about the ribbon? Normally a EK (or RK) ribbon has the same amount of white stitches, this one has 6-7-6-7 etc., mine has and that's a 2nd class! Unless someone want's to buy it for 500e that is. Like Jon has suggested, this one is easy to put together, which is very apparent when comparing it to these buttons with similar design. However the concept EK v. KC in 16mm for ring is not yet clear to me, but I'm expecting additional info in days to come and will get back to you guys.

cheers
Peter

[Bob Hritz]

A buttonhold mini Knight's Cross

bob Hritz

[andrewb]

Bob, Is that a PLM sitting above the RK? Any chance of a quick look?

Regards,
AB.

[Bob Hritz]

Yes, this is a cased set of Minis. I have included the mini RK-KvK withiout swords, that did not come in the case.

I assume this is some sort of sales case to display mini's in the kliderkasse. I am not aware of anyone who was awarded the PlM, RK, and RK-KvK with swords.

Bob Hritz

[andrewb]

Beautiful.

Regards,
AB.

[Gary B]

Yes, this is a cased set of Minis. I have included the mini RK-KvK withiout swords, that did not come in the case.

I assume this is some sort of sales case to display mini's in the kliderkasse. I am not aware of anyone who was awarded the PlM, RK, and RK-KvK with swords.

Bob Hritz

Dear Bob,

This case, from an exterioir standpoint, looks very similar, if not identical, to the cased versions of the RK-KvK minis that were part of the Schloss Klessheim find. The only difference I see is in the case interior which was off white/cream for the cased RK-KvK minis.

Very nice pieces!

Gary B

[Blaue]

Hi, Jon!

Could you tell me how do you copy the pictures appearing it Detlev Niemann?
The cut/paste option is not available when I try it and I can only use the "Print Screen" button of my keyboard.

Thanks in advance.

[Blaue]

... Neither the "SAVE AS" option...

[tinmantis]

Hi, Jon!

Could you tell me how do you copy the pictures appearing it Detlev Niemann?
The cut/paste option is not available when I try it and I can only use the "Print Screen" button of my keyboard.

Thanks in advance.

I slide it off onto my desktop, then upload it in my reply (I'm on a Mac, and I've got zero computer skills)
regards
jon

[colin davie]

One thing for sure is the medal manufacturers and authorities both surely would not allow confusion in regard to what someone is wearing on their lapel, is that guy a KC holder or just EK1? There must have been rules, but what were those rules?

It seems to me that the logic that says a pin that holds 2 crosses must ALWAYS be EK1/EK2 is followed on then by any pin that holds 3 crosses must be KC/1/2... but that should allow pins with three 9mm crosses to exist, because everyone would know it must be KC as it follows the logic, but there are none with three x9mm that I've seen.. the KC is always larger..11mm as opposed to 9mm.

None of the other possible EK series awards have any problems, they are always obvious in what they represent, however the KC being the same in appearance to the EK1/2 is a problem in that the only thing that sets them apart is SIZE.

When pins featuring multi awards were constructed they followed roughly the same scale of size for each award.. 3x9mm awards on a pin or 4x 16mm awards on a chain etc so it seems illogical to have an 11mm cross next to a 9mm cross when in full size both those awards are the same size if we're talking EK1 and 2 only. This is backed up by the multitude of 2x9mm pins we see, but never 3x9mm pins which don't exist because the KC is larger than the other 2 and is always shown as such.

It seems far more logical and simple that if you see a larger cross next to a small one the larger cross= KC, it just plain makes sense and there is no confusion.

The stand alone crosses on nice button devices are a puzzle as well, so if it has a nice button device it is KC, but I've seen those nice button devices on lesser awards many times, social awards etc, so how do we know if it represents KC or EK2?

I just don't think tha authorities would allow this confusion with such a high end award like the KC.
C