(2) new unmarked EKII's

[Robert P.]

Hi all,

I found these two unmarked crosses at such a bargain I thought I'd better get them. Both have small humps for their jump rings, and at first glance I thought the left cross was a Deumer, and the right an S&L. I was wrong on both counts. Can anyone identify them? Obviously I don't have either in my collection.

Robert

[Robert P.]

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[Flemming]

I really think that cross number two has a frame that looks like a 24, when you compare the center of the frame...I know that the 24 does not have the hump for the suspension ring...Maybe it is just my tires old eyes that is seeing things?

/Flemming

[Robert P.]

Thanks Flemming. Looking at my '24' files I see some similarities, but nothing convincing really. Thank you for your participation.

A '24'...
Robert

[Steinar]

Nice crosses robert.. i do not think its a 24... the frame just ain't wide enough.
Any other thought?

[Robert P.]

Nice crosses robert.. i do not think its a 24... the frame just ain't wide enough.
Any other thought?

Well, like I say, I thought the 2nd cross was an early S&L when the dies were crisp and detail sharp. But, I have an early S&L EKI, and they just don't compare - close, but not complete. It's a toss up for me. I've maybe not searched hard enough yet to ask others to solve the riddle for me. I'm convinced that there will always be EK's that we just never find an ID on.

Robert

[grueni1208]

left side:
maker 23, a version without a typical meybauer number design
I have the same version.

right side:
Deumer

Regards

Daniel

[StefanK.]

I agree with Daniel

[Robert P.]

Daniel,

You're good, really good with EK's. I bypassed both of those makers after looking at them. You amaze me. Are you looking at the numbers to begin with to identify them?

Robert

[grueni1208]

Are you looking at the numbers to begin with to identify them?

The first look is to find distinctive features (number design and frame design).

Deumer has a very distinctive and unique number design (only B.H. Mayer has a similar number design, but the 8 on 1813 is other).

Maker 23 has a frame-design like Deumer, but another number design (like Meybauer or this design).

It's hard to find a maker on EK II's with the standard S&L design.

Regards

Daniel